OOP AA Hand - 100 NL

[Ojo_Rojo]

Please comment on this AA hand, played from the blinds.
Villain is a pretty standard VPIP 29.0 PFR 3.0, and I had seen him do nothing extraordinary.

The flop smooth call worried me, he took a while to think about it. Would you bet on the turn here, and fold to a raise?

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MP2 ($151.93)
MP3 ($91)
CO ($86.88)
Button ($81.5)
SB ($77.86)
Hero ($183.15)
UTG ($32.05)
UTG+1 ($108.79)
MP1 ($96.5)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5.5</font>, UTG+1 calls $5.50, MP2 folds, SB folds.

Flop: ($15) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, UTG+1 calls $10.

Turn: ($35) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $15</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $50

Many thanks,

Ojo_Rojo

[fuzzbox]

What do you put him on that you fold here ?
If he has flush then you have 9 outs to beat him. He is giving you pretty good odds to hit one of those 9 outs .. AND you might be ahead.

I check/call and play a river.
I might even check/raise if I was feeling frisky.

[noggindoc]

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What do you put him on that you fold here ?
If he has flush then you have 9 outs to beat him. He is giving you pretty good odds to hit one of those 9 outs .. AND you might be ahead.

I check/call and play a river.
I might even check/raise if I was feeling frisky.

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[PokerFink]

Way too passive. I think he has AQ. I would probably have potted it again on the turn.

What clubs could he be calling you with? You have the A and the Q is on the board, so KcQc is out. KcJc? Did he limp UTG+1 and call with 8c9c?

[Ojo_Rojo]

I agree I did play it far too passively. As soon as I clicked "Fold" I felt sick. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

It does seem unlikely villain has a flush, so I'm only behind a flopped set. I'm guilty of seeing monsters under the bed, and should have potted the turn, I think.

Many thanks,

Ojo_Rojo

[PinkSteel]

Even if he has the flush, you have outs to a better one, and 4 to the house. You're getting pot odds to call that are on par with your draw -- a little over 3:1 -- not to mention implied odds.

[meow_meow]

Oh man.
Most likely he has a big queen, drawing to 2 outs. 55, 44 are less likely obviously, but still possible. Flush is very unlikely, but as has been already mentioned, you still have the ace.

You should be thinking about how to get him all-in.

[TrailofTears]

Just reading this hand makes me feel weak. I have to have a pretty great read to put villain on a flopped set here, and anything else he has I am calling this turn and throwing out a blocking bet on the river UI.

-Trail

[MarkL444]

I would lead the turn for 20-25ish.

[MarkL444]

also, having checked the turn, i would rather check raise than check fold. very weak

[Tboner7]

I'm thinking AQ.

[Publos Nemesis]

You do realize that the only way you can fold the turn is if you are pretty sure he has a boat or quads? You have not only an overpair, but also the nut flush draw. You are so far ahead of AQ it's not funny, and he could be betting the turn with any number of hands since he likely puts you on a missed AK when you check the turn. Reading your post I thought you were about to check-raise the turn, then seeing you wrote fold I cried. I cried so hard. Check-raising the turn will tell you right away what you're up against. However, I think it would be optimal to bet out the turn and check/call the river, or you could play more aggressive and use a blocking bet on the river.

[MarkL444]

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Hero ($98.9)
SB ($110.9)
BB ($42.75)
UTG ($93.5)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.50.

Flop: ($16.50) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8.5</font>, UTG calls $8.50.

Turn: ($33.50) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16.5</font>, UTG raises $77.50 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $127.50

Read on this guy was weak at the time, but he seemed to be of the semi tight-passivish variety.

[TrailofTears]

Why are you underbetting every street?

Check behind on the turn here for sure.

-T

[MarkL444]

i thought his most likely hands were QQ and JJ, and i was hoping that maybe if i underbet a little he would peel one off.

[MarkL444]

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i thought his most likely hands were QQ and JJ, and i was hoping that maybe if i underbet a little he would peel one off.

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yeah i def should have checked behind on the turn. dont know what i was thinking /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[TrailofTears]

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yeah i def should have checked behind on the turn. dont know what i was thinking

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Yeah, it happens to the best of us in the heat of the moment, especially when multitabling. That's why we post these types of hands - for reinforcement of the things we already know, and introduction to the things we don't. This is definitely a case of the former.

-T

[Publos Nemesis]

Mark, that is one hell of a tough fold, but nice. Yes you should have checked the turn, but you also would have called a pot size bet if he had led into you right?