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xorbie
05-05-2005, 06:56 AM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button ($49.8)
SB ($54.15)
Hero ($56.15)
UTG ($59.95)
MP1 ($41.15)
MP2 ($65.8)
CO ($55.3)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2.50, UTG folds, CO calls $2.

Flop: ($9.75) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $5, Hero calls $5, CO goes all in for $47.30., Button calls.</font> Hero...

And yes I realized I should have raised to about $15 here. I didn't lead out because I didn't want two calls and then see an ugly turn, and I was pretty sure button would bet it.

His small bet and then call make me almost 100% sure he has AA/KK. CO.. I'm pretty sure he has a set. What do I do?

Dommer
05-05-2005, 07:03 AM
I'd never fold that, I'd call. The way the CO played it, if he has a higher set he's winning my stack.

Dommer

phil_ivey_fan
05-05-2005, 07:29 AM
yeah, you can't lay this down. if he has a set, so be it. he wouldn't play the flopped str8 this way, if he did, then he's the man and deserves your money. I think you are way ahead here (esp at the 50NL tables) to make this a +EV call.

Malachii
05-05-2005, 07:40 AM
Given the coordinated nature of the board, I think two pair is much more likely than a set, and he would probably play it in just as aggressive of a manner.

wtfsvi
05-05-2005, 08:11 AM
The AA-KK call sweetens your odds against a made straight, that's good. Don't suppose a made straight is very likely though. But two pair is.

I can't fold this without a good read on CO.

fuzzbox
05-05-2005, 08:32 AM
If he has two-pair then you are ahead. If he has the made straight then you have odds to call (you are about 2-1 to fill up and you have two players all in giving you 2-1). So the only thing you are worried about is the overset.

I lose my stack here, or make a big score.

I think he has 88.

unlucky513
05-05-2005, 09:11 AM
i think you have to call. CO looks like AA/KK, button looks like 2 pair.

swolfe
05-05-2005, 09:32 AM
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i think you have to call. CO looks like AA/KK, button looks like 2 pair.

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i think you have that backwards.

the odds that you're ahead plus your odds to fill make it a call for me.

unlucky513
05-05-2005, 09:59 AM
could be... but why would CO raise such a small amount w/ any of those cards on the board? his mini-raise preflop, then all in the flop looks like an overpair. i'd put button on overpair/2pair.

swolfe
05-05-2005, 10:03 AM
donks like to minraise suited connectors to "juice the pot". it's pretty assinine if you ask me.

xorbie
05-05-2005, 10:08 AM
I called. He had 99, I didn't improve (no 1 outers for me). Button did indeed have AA. At least my reads were solid.

TrailofTears
05-05-2005, 11:34 AM
Don't Check-call this flop. Don't even CR it. Bet out (even overbet) and play from there.

As it went, if you are sure about your reads, then trust them, but I doubt I could lay this down here, especially not in the moment.

-Trail