I have a full house! Big deal?

[morello]

My opponent in this hand is solid. I haven't seen him do anything out of line, and I think he is a pro (if that matters). He is definitely a winning player.

Anyways, it folds to him in the SB, and he raises. I 3bet in the BB w/ 99.

flop is Q Q 2r. He checks, I bet, he raises. I call.

turn is another Q. He bets, I raise, he 3bets.

What's the play? More importantly, what range of hands do you put him on? The limit is 50-100, if that matters.

[GatorXP]

with the little info you gave I would call him down.
I'm guessing Pocket pair. Hopefully smaller than yours.

[DcifrThs]

call it down.

blind war. if he's a pro he MAY be capable of 3 betting a lower pair hoping to fold out your hand. of course id weight the higher pairs a bit more because, well, he hasn't slowed down all hand. at this point he has to know yo have a pair though. if you've been folding a lot then yea he may do it.

if you haven't seen him get out of line at all against you then he has AA/KK/ a queen and thats yay about it.

-Barron

[patrick_star]

I don't think you can get away from this hand. The pot is already big enough that you need to see this through to the end on the off chance he's doing this with eights, sevens, etc. Queen is obviously unlikely given card frequency but most of the time this is AA/KK.

[psyduck]

There are different cases. For one, he could realize that this is a blind war, and may think that his 22-88 fullhouse is good, putting you on a resteal. His check-raise on the flop is quite indicative of this. On the flop, he could have any of the following:

AA-TT
99-22 (99 very unlikely because you hold it)
unimproved AK, KQ, AQ, and the like
or, total garbage

On the turn, his range is very much narrowed. Now it's definitely possible that he has AA-TT. However, look at the preflop. Would villain raise AA-TT when there are no other callers? Wouldn't he want you to pay off a bit more?

I think that we can put him exactly on a pocket pair lower than 99.

(already mentioned: call down mode is the best route to take with this size of a pot)

[patrick_star]

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Would villain raise AA-TT when there are no other callers?

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I would assert that a solid player who doesn't get out of line is more likely to open-raise in the SB with a big pair than he is to 3-bet this turn with a pair lower than nines, particularly if he gives hero credit for also being a decent player.

You may be beating him, but probably not, so just call it down.

[Senor Choppy]

He doesn't have a bigger pocket pair unless he's going for some totally bizarre slowplay. The only hand you're losing to here is quads.

I'm capping in case he's just making a move. It would be a disaster for him to see the river for free with something like KT.

[jgorham]

You suggesting this because he didn't cap preflop? Remember the opponent here is a strong, winning player, who is capable of sacrificing a small bet preflop HU if he thinks he can make it back later. This player probably has a read on Hero as solid, and therefore not capping a big pair is reasonable.

[catlover]

I realize it's a little late for this, but I think you should have just called the turn bet. Your hand is strong, but it's not amazing, so just call him down.

[etizzle]

He needs to make villain fold hands with 6 outs, like KQ KJ KT etc. This is the reason he must raise the turn here.

He would also like to get an extra bet from AK/AJ/Ax, which will very possibly call down, but may check the river unimproved.

[piggity]

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He needs to make villain fold hands with 6 outs, like KQ KJ KT etc.

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Don't think he's folding KQ..

[ggbman]

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He needs to make villain fold hands with 6 outs, like KQ KJ KT etc. This is the reason he must raise the turn here.

He would also like to get an extra bet from AK/AJ/Ax, which will very possibly call down, but may check the river unimproved.

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This is incorrect, there are already 8BB in the pot after the raise, so villian has odds to chase overs, and hero gets 3 bet by better hands and has a tough decision. I like calling down after the turn, i really see very little in raising.

[etizzle]

Villain is *barely* getting odds to chase overs, but will quite possibly throw away hands like KJ or JT to a turn raise here.

Hero clearly gains if this happens.

And again, hero needs to make an extra bet from Ax when he is ahead. The first turn raise is clearly correct, as he is a ahead a significant majority of the time.

After the 3 bet I call it down without more of a read then that he is a good player.

[Senor Choppy]

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You suggesting this because he didn't cap preflop? Remember the opponent here is a strong, winning player, who is capable of sacrificing a small bet preflop HU if he thinks he can make it back later.

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Is he capable? Sure. Do people play their hands this way more than 5% of the time? No.

If the villain was going to mix up his play, he would've limp-reraised with a big pair. The only way he's got something bigger than 99 is if he has TT or JJ and he plays like a girl.