Big Stack limps UTG, still iso-raise shortstack?

[Pat Southern]

From tonights stars rebuy, near the money but not there yet. I've seen the big stack limp before, this isn't the first time hes limped.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO (t78132)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t172773)</font>
SB (t54765)
BB (t10762)
UTG (t141594)
UTG+1 (t46570)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 (t9345)</font>
MP2 (t23349)
MP3 (t103564)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls t4000, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t9145</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...

[mts]

i can see folding, calling, and raising as viable options.

[tiger7210]

If you'be seen UTG limp before with marginal drawing hand i would reraise here to 20000 to isolate and make a call from the SB difficult and push UTG out.

If UTG has a monster and comes over the top, 20K doesn't really hurt you.

If you can get UTG to fold you've really only invested 9000 to win 20000 with the 77's.

If your read is UTG is loose and will call your reraise then I just flat call and look to beat him in a big pot and possibly catch a set but folding 77's here would be too weak with what's in the pot and only the SB left to behind you with any type of stack.

[JeanieJ]

I'd take the chance and reraise trying to isolate the shortstack. Likely UTG is on a weaker hand here KQ KJ QJ AT A9 and so on and will probably fold to your reraise. Perhaps you can even push out his small pocket pair (hopefully smaller than your own)

[Pat Southern]

Perhaps you can even push out his small pocket pair (hopefully smaller than your own)

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Why would I want to knock out his smaller pocket pair?

[JeanieJ]

I meant push it out if it happened to be larger than yours. Obviously you wouldn't mind a call from a smaller pair than your own. Sorry... long night. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Pat Southern]

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i can see folding, calling, and raising as viable options.

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Well now that we have it narrowed down to folding, calling or raising, anyone else want to comment?

[DireWolf]

Raise to 20k. You have enough chips here, where laying down to utg is easy.

[MHarris]

I like making it 22-25K to go. I think UTG calling here defines his hand somewhat, and you can still get away if he LRR's you.

BTW, nice finish last night!

[Pat Southern]

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I like making it 22-25K to go. I think UTG calling here defines his hand somewhat, and you can still get away if he LRR's you.

BTW, nice finish last night!

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Thats what I did, big stack mucked and short stack had QQ. Thanks, I wish I could have done better, ran into too many big hands during the final 20 to make the final table.

[locutus2002]

I fold.

You have a great stack.
77 is a pretty marginal holding .
If you call here you could get sandwiched if UTG reraises.
You'll be out of position against both players after the flop.
Your likely to be up against at least 1 over pair.
I cant think of many flops I'd like to lead out with after the flop.
I can't think of many flops I'd like to call more chips with after the flop.

If you think that UTG has limped with a weak holding AND you think that MP1 is on a draw and doesn't have better than pr of 77 AND you want to play the hand recklessly,
Then you might raise. Note that there is ~T20,000 in the pot, so I think a raise of T30,000 or more is going to get UTG to lay down an inferior holding. Note that the pot will have T80,000 if he calls; not too pretty with 77.
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[invisibleleadsoup]

i wouldn't be too worried about MP1 showing much more agression in this hand to be honest