terrible push? terrible call?

[tomdemaine]

I could fold into 3rd here easy. In retrospect caller was getting angsty over previous pushes.


#Game No : 1995184565
***** Hand History for Game 1995184565 *****
NL Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:11890428 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Tuesday, May 03, 21:50:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 14005 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: Blue_Bawls7 ( $550 )
Seat 6: CURSOR ( $3130 )
Seat 9: lostwithaces ( $1705 )
Seat 10: lisa_12345 ( $2615 )
Trny:11890428 Level:5
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lostwithaces [ As Th ]
Blue_Bawls7 folds.
lisa_12345: its a strange one
CURSOR folds.
lostwithaces is all-In [1605]
CURSOR: only 20$
>You have options at Table 13877 Table!.
>You have options at Table 14518 Table!.
lisa_12345 calls [1505].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 8s, 7h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jh ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
>You have options at Table 13877 Table!.
lostwithaces shows [ As, Th ] high card ace.
lisa_12345 shows [ Js, Qs ] a pair of jacks.
lisa_12345 wins 3410 chips from the main pot with a pair of jacks.
lostwithaces finished in fourth place.
thanks
lostwithaces has left the table.

[HighestCard]

good push, you just ended up with the bad end of the deal

[lastchance]

Yeah, ATo is way too good to fold here, calling with QJo is pretty bad.

[maddog2030]

The problem with the push is she's a bigger stack than you by a decent amount. ATo is a very strong hand 4 handed, but it's not one you want to be called with for all your chips. If she's calling with anything more than other aces, maybe kings, and pocket pairs, this is a losing push. Obviously she had a bigger range than this since she called with QJ but it really depended on your read of her at the time.

You said she was antsy. If by antsy, you thought she'd call with a lot of trash then I'd fold. If you thought she was getting antsy but wouldn't call without at least a decent holding, then I'd say its a good push. All depends on your read of her calling range. Now if she was a shorter stack than you by about 200 chips or so, this is an easy push no matter what her range is.

[tomdemaine]

Maybe giving her too much credit but is she thinking if I lose here I can tighten up and limp to third? Or is it a case of damn table bully's I'll get this one? Any 3rd level thinkers wanna wade in?

[lastchance]

It doesn't really matter. Trying to use upper-level psychology on $10+1 players is simply not effective. Don't try. Just use a general range and do EV calcs.