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Deathbear

05-03-2005, 01:26 AM

Thoughts on this? Should I really be that stunned?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Deathbear is MP3 with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Deathbear calls, CO calls, Button raises, 2 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Deathbear calls, CO calls.

Flop: (17.40 SB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (8 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Deathbear bets, CO raises, Button 3-bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, Deathbear caps, CO calls, Button calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (20.70 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Deathbear bets, CO calls, Button raises, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Deathbear 3-bets, CO calls, Button calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (38.70 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Deathbear bets, CO calls, Button calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP2 raises, Deathbear calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 46.70 BB

Results in white below: 
MP2 has 6c 6s (four of a kind, sixes).
Deathbear has 9c Qc (straight, queen high).
CO has Qh Js (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Button has Ac As (two pair, aces and sixes).
Outcome: MP2 wins 46.70 BB.

sweetjazz

05-03-2005, 01:29 AM

That's rough. If MP2 didn't occassionally drag a huge pot with runner-runner draws, poker would be less profitable for us. Sorry that you were the one on the receiving end of his wicked outdraw. At least you played the hand as well as possible.

You may have lost the battle, but you're gonna win the war.

Harv72b

05-03-2005, 01:31 AM

I sincerely hope MP2 got added to your buddy list.

I play this exactly the same, up to & including calling the river raise.

gusser

05-03-2005, 01:34 AM

I'd probably check call the river, I'd say it's highly likely someone has a set considering flop/trun, but that pot is a monster and unless someone shows me their boat before I call their is no way i'm folding. Are you complaing about getting all your money in with nuts? Add CO to your buddy list. Looks like a fun table.

gus

toby

05-03-2005, 01:40 AM

that's harsh - i hope the guy dumped his ill-gotten gains back to you later.

Liam Carver

05-03-2005, 01:42 AM

weeping.

utrnbmp3

05-03-2005, 02:21 AM

hmm check the river

mtdoak

05-03-2005, 02:27 AM

Perfect catches happen. Quickly add him to your buddy list and move on.

Yobz

05-03-2005, 03:32 AM

I want your table selection skills.

imported_leader

05-03-2005, 03:54 AM

The best part has got to be him calling 3 bets cold on the flop with and underpair.

Deathbear

05-03-2005, 12:15 PM

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The best part has got to be him calling 3 bets cold on the flop with and underpair.

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Tell me about it. When I chewed him out in the room someone at the table chimed in stating it was a smart move and he had outs.

Chris Dow

05-03-2005, 12:27 PM

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The best part has got to be him calling 3 bets cold on the flop with and underpair.

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Tell me about it. When I chewed him out in the room someone at the table chimed in stating it was a smart move and he had outs.

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Why do you chew him out? Thank god someone was there to back up his play. People ragging on people for playing poorly is the dumbest biggest -ev move possible. Did you suggest he come to these forums too? Good grief...

Entity

05-03-2005, 12:27 PM

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The best part has got to be him calling 3 bets cold on the flop with and underpair.

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Tell me about it. When I chewed him out in the room someone at the table chimed in stating it was a smart move and he had outs.

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That's what I would have done had you chewed him out in the same room as me. Chewing him out is worse than his play.

Deathbear

05-03-2005, 12:32 PM

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The best part has got to be him calling 3 bets cold on the flop with and underpair.

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Tell me about it. When I chewed him out in the room someone at the table chimed in stating it was a smart move and he had outs.

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Why do you chew him out? Thank god someone was there to back up his play. People ragging on people for playing poorly is the dumbest biggest -ev move possible. Did you suggest he come to these forums too? Good grief...

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In retrospect that's true. Guess I was tilting afterwards. -EV indeed.

Chris Dow

05-03-2005, 12:36 PM

Try not to dismiss it lightly. You shouldn't berate players because it might make them play better. You also shouldn't berate players because the end result is out of your control. You don't control the river card so when it gets you it shouldn't anger you. Focus instead on getting your money in good, which you did here. All I'm saying is that the fact you would berate shows an emotional attachment that will possibly lead to tilt, which is bad for you as a player. So there are a bunch of reasons to focus on not doing this.