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RiverTheNuts
05-02-2005, 07:20 PM
BB bets and raises alot of hands, so I thought this was the best line, with check/raising river a close 2nd... lead river or check/raise? I dont think he'll give me credit for quads, so he might bet with any pair over 77, then again, with that reasoning he could easily raise my river bet, so I like leading

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Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (11 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls.

River: (11.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
shadow29
05-02-2005, 07:24 PM
Your post flop play is good.

I don't see pulling off a river c/r. Lead is good.
mute
05-02-2005, 08:09 PM
Nice hand. I doubt there is much chance of getting him to bet at this, and even if he does he might fold to the check/raise anyway.
Shillx
05-02-2005, 08:16 PM
Your post flop play is good.

I disagree. I think it is rather reckless to be perfectly honest. We are getting our poop pushed in if the villian has AK/KQ/KJ, and we risk folding out a hand like QQ/JJ/etc. Just because we have trips doesn't mean that our hand is any good.
shadow29
05-02-2005, 08:18 PM
Hero's read on villain was that he was an idiot and liked to bet and raise.
imported_leader
05-02-2005, 08:21 PM
Is this a standard call in the SB? Because I haven't been making it.
Shillx
05-02-2005, 08:23 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Hero's read on villain was that he was an idiot and liked to bet and raise.

[/ QUOTE ]

If this is actually the case, then trying for a check/raise isn't good. 3-bet the flop and keep betting. If anything is going to slow him down, it is going to be a turn check/raise.
RiverTheNuts
05-03-2005, 01:33 AM
The only difference IMO between 3 betting the flop and check raising the turn is 1 less SB in my pocket, they both send the same message (hey dumbass, I have trips)

As for the PF call, yes its probably a little loose, but I figured dope in BB would come along and give me a little more pot equity and implieds. Besides, at 2/4 the button raises when folded to like 90% of the time, my KT very well could be the best hand
Shillx
05-03-2005, 01:35 AM
Not really. You will get much better results by bypassing all check/raise opportunities. Against a player like this, the best option might be to just call the flop raise and then try for a bet/3bet on the turn.
RiverTheNuts
05-03-2005, 01:37 AM
can you explain why bypassing check raising spots and giving away my hand on the flop is better???

I said that my read on BB was that he plays hands very aggressively, not that he was a complete moron
mtdoak
05-03-2005, 02:45 AM
Heads up I think the smooth call the flop and try for two on the turn. It looks like AA or QQ to me