a WSOP Step 5 hand

[Tyler Durden]

10 handed, 25-50, table is pretty tight

I have 845 and black 77 utg+1 and for some reason i limp. next six have auto fold on and the button limps. both blinds are in. 4 way action.

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Checked to me and I bet 125 into a pot of 200. Only the SB calls.

Turn is an offsuit 7. He checks (has me covered). I have 690 left and I bet 275 into a pot of 450. He tanks and finally calls.

River is an offsuit 5.
He checks. I have 390 left and there is 1,000 in the pot. What's my play?

thanks much

P.S. the river is all i'm interested in. TIA

[smartalecc5]

ALL IN /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[curtains]

I'd move allin. It seems like a spot where he either has something to call you or he has nothing. If he has a queen there is almost zero chance he folds on the river with 1k in the pot, especially as there is some possibility you were on a draw.

I admit that it doesn't seem like he has a queen or an eight, but if he was just drawing you probably won't make anything no matter what you bet.

[Apathy]

You aren't considering checking behind are you? A smaller bet seems too suspiciuos you are much better of betting all in then any other size.

[curtains]

Checking behind is lunacy

[Tyler Durden]

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Checking behind is lunacy

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I wasn't considering checking behind.

[curtains]

Don't worry I didn't think for a second that you were

[Wes ManTooth]

I would consider checking behind, He might have been calling with 6 4 of clubs, he may not have hit his flush but hit a straight on the river. Just a thought.

[curtains]

If you would consider checking behind here, you have tremendous flaws in your poker game. You can't be scared of every card, and if villian hit the river they would almost surely bet themselves. To expect an opponent playing in 2k event to check a made hand on the river when the pot has 1k in it and your opponent has 400 chips, is insane, because you know your opponent is going to call with almost anything, but might not bet anything on the river.

[lastchance]

Maybe I'm missing something, but didn't you hit your set on the turn? This isn't a real question, right?

[curtains]

His question is whether or not to move allin in this situation or to make a smaller bet on the river.

[Tyler Durden]

Actually this whole thread was to settle a debate between myself and a friend of mine who was watching me play the hand. Before it was my turn on the river he wanted me to check behind but I didn't pay no mind to that. I bet half my stack, 200, b/c I wanted a call. He c/r me all in and I called, he did indeed have the 64/images/graemlins/club.gif and I was out in 10th.

He says he's not being results oriented b/c he wanted me to check behind before it was my turn to act. He also says that a bet has no value b/c he either missed a flush and can't call or he has me beat. But I think it's BS b/c he'll pay off w/ a Queen or a weird two pair.

[curtains]

Yeah but he will pay off with a queen or weird two pair if you move allin, but might only call if you bet less. Checking behind is completely insane, what kind of made hand is he supposed to have that he played like this.

[lastchance]

Ditto. I really think you have to bet all-in here, and any other amount, or checking behind, is horrible, simply because the pot is so big in comparison to your stack. Any bet that isn't all-in is way too fishy.

[Jason Strasser]

Any pair that called the turn will call the river.

This hand is extremely boring.

-Jason

[Tyler Durden]

You're boring.