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raptor517
05-02-2005, 04:45 AM
ok, so usher rolls back into town, and we go drive around and check out LA, etc. then when we get back to commerce, he goads me into another brilliant session of pai gow. i, raptor, wanted to play some 5-10 NL, but NOOOOOOOOOO. the incessant nagging, 'we can beat it this time!!!' says usher. i say 'no dude, thats not smart.' so anyways, we both buy in for 1200 total, and sit down. we start betting 50 per hand, nice small amount, run up a couple hundo. then the bank rolls around. DURRRRRRRRRR. we lose everything in 2 hands.

ok, so now were thinking. great. were stuck now. i hate life. so naturally, i reach into my pocket, and usher runs to the atm. were back in action with no hands missed and a fresh eight hundo to have another go. we dont bank this time (wisely, its rigged) so we decide to spread our 'wealth' around the table. DURRRRRRRR. we lose every hand again.

ok, so overall me and usher are a combined 12k loser at the pai gow table.. in the last 2 sessions. so what have we learned from this? bring more money next time. the way i see it, we HAVE to outrun the variance at some point. so if we keep coming back with MORE money we CANT lose, right? RIGHT?????????!!?!??!?!?!!! ok ok. no more pai gow for at least 2 weeks. once i build some more roll, well come back with a full 12k between us to take shot #3. i predict much greater success. holla

DonButtons
05-02-2005, 05:05 AM
lol, maybe its a good thing i didnt go to cali...

raptor517
05-02-2005, 05:11 AM
no, no, its still a bad thing, u missed out on some good high limit poker. which is really pointless to even play if im pretty much gonna flip an unfair quarter for 10k. holla

bugstud
05-02-2005, 05:27 AM
for some reason I think a step higher has better expectation.

raptor517
05-02-2005, 05:41 AM
yea im gonna put the rest of my roll into that as soon as i get a chance. i sure do love flipping quarters for 70k. holla

theredpill5
05-02-2005, 06:07 AM
Where'd a 20 year old get $12K ?

raptor517
05-02-2005, 06:08 AM
20? im 18. i get my money from suckers like you. bwahahahahaha. ship it. holla

theredpill5
05-02-2005, 06:21 AM
suckers ? I haven't played a SNG for about a month. Besides I'm about 45 % ITM , HOLLA

raptor517
05-02-2005, 06:53 AM
bring it. ship it. shove it. ggs. you lose. no re. challenge on. heads up. holla

Maulik
05-02-2005, 09:14 AM
just take $5k, learn how to count cards and have some fun at blackjack

p.s. you know its the curse of the white man at the pai gow tables


brilliant

raptor517
05-02-2005, 09:33 AM
the curse of the white man at the pai gow tables.. this is something that definitely makes sense. i bring horrid luck to everyone around me at the pai gow tables. it MUST be because im white. ok, so next time, i get my hair cut real short, get a tan, and close my eyes. then i can have GOOD luck. and as for blackjack, they dont have real blackjack at commerce, otherwise i would DEFINITELY be playing that. its only SLIGHTLY rigged.

oh, and btw, i just turned usher over to the dark side of the 215s. holla

1C5
05-02-2005, 09:40 AM
haha that is awesome, you can drop 12K like most people drop 12 bucks. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Maulik
05-02-2005, 09:42 AM
go to sleep raptor. holla

hummusx
05-02-2005, 09:45 AM
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haha that is awesome, you can drop 12K like most people drop 12 bucks. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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I'd have to be clearing ungodly amounts of money to drop 12k at a casino game and then admit to it. Even raptor can't be clearing as much as I'd need to do this.

Freudian
05-02-2005, 09:45 AM
http://wizardofodds.com/paigowpoker

Print that out and consult frequently while playing.

raptor517
05-02-2005, 10:01 AM
dude, it didnt matter what 'strategy' i used. i kept getting 4 flushes, no pair, and Q high up top. so stupid.

as for losing 12k like its 12 bucks, trust me, it hurts. all i know, is that next time me and ush are gonna bring 16k between us and double it up so then well both be up in pai gow. bwahahahahahhaa

raptor517
05-02-2005, 10:02 AM
sleep? sleep is for the weak.. which is why i sleep like 20 hours a day.. however, i have to go apartment shopping in LA today, and i was busy getting my money back playing sngs all night, then i gotta catch a plane back to the durrrty south. holla

**Edited by Usher: F*CK THAT. You mean losing even MORE tilting it up at the 109's/215's then making my ass play 215's to get it back... which I did. (*!$&*(@&# As for Pai Gow, man, I told you I should have just dropped you off and went home but you wanted to go play. THANKS FOR MAKING ME DROP EVEN MORE!(*&$@#

**double re-edit by the ACTUAL POSTER** ok, first off, i got sucked out on like 238578240678436880 times in the 215s. AA loses to A3, thats fxxxxxng normal. 99 loses to 56s, again, super normal. so yea, since i suck, dont split variance with my terrible self. hmm, what else, oh yea, for pai gow, IIIIII wanted to play NO LIMIT, but nooooooo, usher says PAI GOW CHING GHANG CHONG. so i sigh and say, ok dude, ill give in to your degenerate needs only for this evening, but im going to make sure u dont lose more than 1500. see? im looking out for you. holla


***Re-re-edited by Usher: BAH SUCK ME WHITE BOY! My AA lost twice in the 215's to 64os and TT. raptor=fold, usher=push ALL THE TIME. THIS WENT ON ALL NIGHT YOU PANSY. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

***quadruple re edit re whatever by raptor** ok ush, this is you the whole night. /images/graemlins/confused.gif /images/graemlins/confused.gif /images/graemlins/confused.gif what do i do??? do i poooosh??? HELP ME RAPTOR, I BOW DOWN TO YER DIVINE ABILITES YO SNG GOD!!!! HOLLLLLLLLAAAAAA

***ok ok last edit by Usher*** BAH! You were too busy saying what nasty things you'd do to Britney Spears' little sister while you were reading Us Weekly instead of watching me get our money back. Dude that's messed up rap, she's only like 13 or something. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

***FINAL EDIT BY RAPTOR*** whatever dude, if there's grass on the field, play ball. holla

jah0550
05-02-2005, 10:32 AM
Stick to craps. Much better odds. Take notes from TJ and Phil I. holla.

Maulik
05-02-2005, 10:41 AM
Cloutier was a craps gambler?

brilliant

Misfire
05-02-2005, 11:08 AM
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we both buy in for 1200 total...we lose everything in 2 hands...usher runs to the atm...we lose every hand again...overall me and usher are a combined 12k loser at the pai gow table... in the last 2 sessions. so what have we learned from this? bring more money next time.

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holla

Pete
05-02-2005, 11:09 AM
what are some of the names you play under raptor??

Freudian
05-02-2005, 11:10 AM
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what are some of the names you play under raptor??

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Should be American_Pai

willie
05-02-2005, 11:41 AM
pai gow (chinese for)= you lose.

The Yugoslavian
05-02-2005, 12:35 PM
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha...

Bwahahahahahahhahahahaha....

BwahahahahahhahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAH....

You do realize that if you move out here with Ush this will be like every Sunday night? /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Yugoslav

kyro
05-02-2005, 12:37 PM
I know why you lost that money raptor. You were only playing one table at a time.

ilya
05-02-2005, 01:00 PM
Good job losing a lot of money on a -EV game when you could probably have had just as much fun winning money at the NL tables.

I know you already feel like crap about it, but I am trying to make you feel even worse so you don't do moronic, self-destructive, pointless things like this again.

Freudian
05-02-2005, 01:15 PM
It't not that -EV. With the bad luck he had at Pai Gow transferred to a NL table he would have lost also.

SuitedSixes
05-02-2005, 01:48 PM
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ive always been +ev in pai gow. so many terrible people. if you have any sense at all you can beat pai gow. holla

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Apathy
05-02-2005, 01:53 PM
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ive always been +ev in pai gow. so many terrible people. if you have any sense at all you can beat pai gow. holla

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I know your joking, but occasionally in pai gow you can change your actions based on other peoples cards, depending on how strict the house is about people 'unintentionally' showing other players.

Also as a player banker I like to get a 'read' on the other players, if it looks like the have a tough decision, or a bad hand you can opt to either get aggressive (like splitting two pair), or play it house way depending on your read.

Damn I should write a book on pai gow.

jah0550
05-02-2005, 01:57 PM
you need to be splitting those two pairs and breaking up boats to beat pai gow...or just pick up the dice, roll 20 straight hard 8s, and rake in the chips. holla back.

nokona13
05-02-2005, 04:34 PM
Don't you think they might feel "obligated" to card you if you tried to cash out after winning it all back?

You do look 12 and all... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Mr_J
05-02-2005, 04:38 PM
"ok, so overall me and usher are a combined 12k loser at the pai gow table.. "

Wow. Why couldn't you guys have just BR'd me for the $109s??

jeffraider
05-02-2005, 09:38 PM
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20? im 18. i get my money from suckers like you. bwahahahahaha. ship it. holla

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This is probably my favourite post ever on 2+2.

raptor517
05-03-2005, 02:14 AM
for cash transactions over 10k i would have to fill out forms and stuff. therefore, i would just have USHER cash it all out for me. simple enough. holla

TheUsher
05-03-2005, 04:06 AM
I am now officially like 0/10 whenever I go halfsies with raptor on something. raptor = rigged.

Also, I've noticed that he does nothing but sleep, bitch, and eat candy all day long. This makes me wonder whether if it's really him playing online 24/7, or a dumb bot.

After all this thoughtful analysis, I conclude:

raptor = a dumb, rigged bot.

Makes sense if you think about it with all those damn "holla's" to fool you all! Don't you guys remember the devil's greatest trick?!@$?