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JDErickson
05-01-2005, 11:01 PM
MP3 16/0/.25
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Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.
Flop: (8.33 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.
Turn: (6.16 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, MP3 calls, CO folds.
River: (8.16 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero ???
Of course Hero will call, but who raises here?
wrto4556
05-01-2005, 11:03 PM
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I puss out and call. Maybe something i should work on, though.
With that aggression, I would call. If it was a lot higher I would 3-bet
wrto4556
05-01-2005, 11:07 PM
His vpip is low...I wonder what he has?
I doubt a rivered set. Maybe a worse aces up, a slowplayed straight, or a really slowplayed 22. /images/graemlins/confused.gif
jason_t
05-01-2005, 11:08 PM
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How many hands?
JDErickson
05-01-2005, 11:11 PM
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Not enough for a firm read, but he did seem weak tight
CallMeIshmael
05-01-2005, 11:56 PM
With that aggression, and the feeling that he is weak tight, I'd put the lime in the coconut and simply call the river. But I think its close, and I could definitely be convinced that a 3-bet is the best way to go.
istewart
05-02-2005, 12:03 AM
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We're entering cliche-ville, just north of Collegetown.
CallMeIshmael
05-02-2005, 12:05 AM
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You must go to UPwn.
(just a way of saying: touche)
FWIW, that commercial was on the TV (the coke one), and I just felt like throwing that into a post.
istewart
05-02-2005, 12:07 AM
What are you majoring in?
CallMeIshmael
05-02-2005, 12:08 AM
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Premed... you?
istewart
05-02-2005, 12:14 AM
Undecided.
Premed is gay /images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Azhrarn
05-02-2005, 12:15 AM
I call. If he's as weak-tight as he looks from those stats, he will almost certainly have the straight here. I think you would have heard from a flopped set earlier, and I don't think 77 or A7 would make it past the flop.
CallMeIshmael
05-02-2005, 12:27 AM
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Why does everyone hate the premeds? Its a prevalent feeling here too.
KDawgCometh
05-02-2005, 03:57 AM
Its possible that a lesser two pair is raising you. but its also very possible that some tard stayed in with 77 and spiked a set, or he had Q10 and decided to raise the river. There's not much we can beat
Fnord
05-02-2005, 04:02 AM
I think he shows you a worse 2 pair too often to fold.
JDErickson
05-02-2005, 11:02 AM
I called but I'm really thinking I missed a bet here.
Opponent had AJ for the lower 2 pair.
CallMeIshmael
05-02-2005, 11:05 AM
I was thinking about this hand last night, and thought of this: reraise, and fold to a cap?
The 3-bet/fold line is almost never right, but I think in this spot it could be. If he is that passive, we can be pretty sure that he isnt going to cap with a hand that we beat.
Thoughts?
27offsooot
05-02-2005, 11:08 AM
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Premed... you?
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Premed is not a legitimate major.
27offsooot
05-02-2005, 11:12 AM
With that much paint on board and your aggression so far, i can't imagine a weak-tightie raising with two pair. That said, he probably does it often enough (and bluffs often enough) to warrant a call, but I think that 3-betting is spewage when that ace completes one of the most obvious draws and river raises are pretty strong.
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