Giant pot, crappy hand

[Yobz]

Villian here is an average 2/4 player, everyone else is loose passive.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO (poster) calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

What do you think of the PF call? With probably 13:1 or so, I thought a call was prudent

Flop: (14.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP1 calls, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (17.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: 20.25 BB

I know I'm beat, but can I fold this at any point?

[casinogosain]

The only place you can fold this hand is preflop. I agree with your assessment on getting a lot:1 preflop, but there is the danger that UTG limp-reraises. I guess you were confident that this wouldn't happen give that all but the villain are passive? Say that did happen, would you fold when it was two more bets back to you?

After that, the hand plays itself.

-Ash

[Yobz]

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The only place you can fold this hand is preflop. I agree with your assessment on getting a lot:1 preflop, but there is the danger that UTG limp-reraises. I guess you were confident that this wouldn't happen give that all but the villain are passive? Say that did happen, would you fold when it was two more bets back to you?

After that, the hand plays itself.

-Ash

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If it was limp-reraised and capped, I would fold. If it was raised but not capped, it is an easy call.

[colgin]

Yobz,

Easy, easy pre-flop call. I would check-raise the flop here but otherwsie it looks fine. I wouldn't even consider folding top pair here pot.

All the best,

Colgin

[KDawgCometh]

I like CRing here. let the field call two cold for the most part. If it gets threebet then call that and debate folding the turn UI, depending on pot size of course

[27offsooot]

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I like CRing here. let the field call two cold for the most part. If it gets threebet then call that and debate folding the turn UI, depending on pot size of course

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There are two people in between PFR and hero to hero's left and three people behind PFR and to hero's right. He will be facing more people with two bets if he bets and is raised. I also like leading b/c i'm at least seeing a river and getting three bet on the flop sucks.

[27offsooot]

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Yobz,

Easy, easy pre-flop call.

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Oh yeah, I agree with this too. I'm too tight and i can't imagine folding PF.

[Yobz]

What do you guys think of this hand? Villian is decently aggressive, avg for a 2/4'er. Should I have called? I thought the ppl behind me would call and overcalling would kill any chance I had of winning:

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

River: (7.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds, CO folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

[27offsooot]

I would bet the turn and check behind on the river on this hand (keep separate hands in separate posts though, please).

[Yobz]

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(keep separate hands in separate posts though, please).

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I try to, didnt want to spam SS with my session, though /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Willluck]

anyone 3 bet the flop, and bet-fold the turn and river?

[sweetjazz]

Bet the turn. You may have to call a raise to draw to your gutshot, though keep in mind that you are sometimes drawing to a split pot (which negates some of your implied odds). When the 2h hits the river, I think you can bet the river for value and safely fold to a river raise.

Your hand is too good not to show down if nobody else is showing aggression, even though you will lose a fair amount of time here.

[Paxosmotic]

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anyone 3 bet the flop, and bet-fold the turn and river?

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I like 3 betting and facing the field with two cold to buy a better share of the pot, but as soon as you do that, if it's capped, you're in check/call mode all the way down unless you catch a miracle. You do not fold this for one bet under any circumstances.