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EvanJC

05-01-2005, 02:19 AM

villians are both unknown. seriously, somebody tell me how horrible this river is. i had a massive weak/tight panic attack. was the flop alright? bah, flame away.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, CO raises, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BB calls, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 21.25 BB

GoblinMason (Craig)

05-01-2005, 03:03 AM

Given that CO liked his hand a lot when the flush didn't come on the turn and the BB didn't raise the river, I think not raising here is bad.

tolbiny

05-01-2005, 03:14 AM

When the cutoff raise comes back to me on the flop i three bet it, there are a lot of hands that the c/o could want a free card with and also a lot of cards to come that could kill your action.

MoDOH

05-01-2005, 04:50 AM

First of all I raise this flop almost everytime. it is a highly coordinated board and chances are very good that you will get some nice action if you raise. since you called the initial flop bet I would definitely raise the second time around...

And the river is an easy raise. I´m guessing he either got a set or top two.it might end up a split pot but there is no way in hell you are losing this pot. if threebet on the river I cap this sucker everytime

aslowjoe

05-01-2005, 10:45 AM

Not rasing the flop is close decision. However The river raise is a must.

zephed56

05-01-2005, 10:02 PM

[ QUOTE ]
villians are both unknown. seriously, somebody tell me how horrible this river is. i had a massive weak/tight panic attack. was the flop alright? bah, flame away.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, CO raises, BB calls, Hero calls.

[/ QUOTE ]Somebody said the flop decision was close, I disagree. 3-bet the flop while you still have someone trapped in between. They could be calling with anything, no need to assign them to a diamond or set draw. I can see gutshots and OESD's calling here too, not to mention a board pair.

Once the pot gets bloated, you'll tie those one pair hands to the pot and they'll call you down the whole way. More money for you.

[ QUOTE ]
Turn: (6.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BB calls, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

[/ QUOTE ]Raise the river, you've got BB padding the river here, so you don't need to be ahead as often as HU. You're ahead > 1/3 of the time.