Trop now charging $10 for parking

[DrewOnTilt]

WTF? When did this change happen? All parking in AC used to be $4... /images/graemlins/confused.gif not that I'm cheap, but the Trop's garage ain't worth ten bucks...

[mostsmooth]

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WTF? When did this change happen? All parking in AC used to be $4... /images/graemlins/confused.gif not that I'm cheap, but the Trop's garage ain't worth ten bucks...

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borg is free, for me anyway

[scrub]

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WTF? When did this change happen? All parking in AC used to be $4... /images/graemlins/confused.gif not that I'm cheap, but the Trop's garage ain't worth ten bucks...

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I haven't been over there since they opened the addition--is this still the same ridiculously cramped garage as before?

scrub

[Luv2DriveTT]

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WTF? When did this change happen? All parking in AC used to be $4... /images/graemlins/confused.gif not that I'm cheap, but the Trop's garage ain't worth ten bucks...

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I haven't been over there since they opened the addition--is this still the same ridiculously cramped garage as before?

scrub

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Actually the Trop did it right this time, the garage is nice (and doesn't smell like piss, as the old one did). The whole place got a makeover, even their staff. The Quarter has truly helped them regain footing. The only problem they will have is the competition from the other rooms doing renovations. Resorts has a new section opening now (I saw the ads on taxis in NY but it escapes me what it is called), and of course there is the the Showboat expansion this summer.

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[ACPlayer]

Used to be that during major events at the trop and busy weekends they would state that the charge was 10 bucks but if you showed your players card the rate was 4 bucks. Perhaps this is the change u saw????

[betgo]

They charged me $4 yesterday with my poker card.

[Lurshy]

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and doesn't smell like piss, as the old one did

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Give it time, it will.

[Yarney]

Yea, if you have a diamond card it is still 4 bucks.

-Yarney

[Bremen]

Last time I checked, just a few months ago. Casino control didn't allow casino's to charge more than $5 for parking. They also stipulate that casino's can't charge someone for parking who already paid it at another casino that day. Wonder how they're getting around the $5 rule... has the law been changed?

[mdelcorso]

I don't see anything in the casino control act that caps the fees for parking. Only that there is a minimum of $3/day and that you cannot be required to pay it more than once in a day...

5:12-173.2 Minimum charge of $3.00 imposed for use of casino parking

facility

On and after July 1, 1993, there is established a minimum amount which shall be charged in the City of Atlantic City for the use of a parking space for the purpose of parking, garaging or storing a motor vehicle in a parking facility or property owned or leased by a casino hotel licensed under the "Casino Control Act," P.L.1977, c.110 (C.5:12-1 et seq.), or by any person on behalf of a casino hotel. The charge shall not be less than $3.00 per day for each motor vehicle parked, garaged or stored in the parking space. The charge shall be made for all motor vehicles so parked, garaged or stored, except for motor vehicles owned or leased by the owner or operator of the parking facility or property, or by an employee of the casino hotel which owns or leases the parking facility or property. A parking space is considered to be that of a licensed casino hotel if the facility or property in which the space is located is owned, wholly or in part, or leased by the casino hotel, and is utilized in whole or in part in conjunction with the operations of the casino hotel. A parking space shall be considered to be on behalf of a casino hotel if spaces within the facility or property are kept under lease or contract for the use of visitors or guests of the casino hotel. No motor vehicle shall be required, upon proof of payment of the $3.00 charge, to pay the charge again in the same calendar day, either for use of a parking space in the same parking facility or property, or for use of a parking space in another casino hotel parking facility or property.

L.1993, c. 159, § 2, eff. June 20, 1993.

Amended by:

L.2003, c. 116, § 9, eff. July 1, 2003.

5:12-173.3 Minimum fee of $3.00 imposed for use of casino parking space

On and after July 1, 1993, there is imposed in the City of Atlantic City a fee upon the use of spaces for the parking, garaging or storing of motor vehicles in a parking facility or property owned or leased by a casino hotel licensed under the "Casino Control Act," P.L.1977, c.110 (C.5:12-1 et seq.), or by any person on behalf of a casino hotel. The fee so imposed is $3.00 of the amount received by the casino hotel or person from each charge made for the use of the parking space; provided, however, that if the casino hotel or person shall fail to collect, or shall rebate, all or a portion of the charge required herein to be imposed for the use of any parking space, the full amount of the fee shall be payable by the casino hotel or person.

L.1993, c. 159, § 3, eff. June 20, 1993.

Amended by:

L.2003, c. 116, § 10, eff. July 1, 2003.

5:12-173.3a No reduction in casino parking fees while bonds outstanding

The State of New Jersey hereby covenants with the purchasers, holders and owners, from time to time, of any bonds secured by funds derived from fees imposed for the use of casino parking spaces pursuant to section 3 of P.L.1993, c. 159 (C. 5:12-173.3) that it shall not repeal or reduce the fee so imposed under that act, while bonds entitled to benefits from the fee so imposed are outstanding, and shall not modify or amend the provisions of that act so as to create any lien or charge on, or any pledge, assignment, diversion, withholding payment or other use of or deduction from the fee so imposed which is prior in time or superior in right to any payments required to be made pursuant to any bond covenants entered into with the purchasers, holders and owners of the bonds so secured.

L.1996, c. 118, § 7, eff. Sept. 16, 1996.

5:12-173.4 Special fund, use of fees

a. The State Treasurer shall deposit the first $1.50 of the fee collected pursuant to section 3 of this act, P.L.1993, c.159 (C.5:12-173.3) into a special fund established and held by the State Treasurer and made available for the exclusive use of the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority established pursuant to section 5 of P.L.1984, c.218 (C.5:12-153), and shall deposit the remaining $1.50 of the fee into the Casino Revenue Fund established pursuant to section 145 of P.L.1977, c.110 (C.5:12-145) in State fiscal years 2004 through 2006. Beginning in State fiscal year 2007 and thereafter, the State Treasurer shall deposit the remaining $1.50 of the fee as follows: $0.50 into the Casino Revenue Fund and $1.00 to the authority for its purposes pursuant to law, as approved by the membership of the authority, provided that the authority shall use the portion of this $1.00 that is necessary to carry out the purpose of section 13 of P.L.2003, c.116 (C.5:12-173.22).

b. Amounts in the special fund shall be expended by the authority for eligible projects in the corridor region of the City of Atlantic City in Atlantic County as defined by regulation of the authority, which are related to improving the highways, roads, infrastructure, traffic regulation and public safety of that city or which are otherwise necessary or useful to the economic development and redevelopment of the city in this regard. The State Treasurer may require that a financial plan demonstrating the need, schedule and use for moneys placed in the special fund be approved by the State Treasurer prior to allocation. Pending application of moneys held in this special fund for these purposes, the moneys shall be invested in accordance with applicable law and income therefrom shall be credited exclusively to the special fund.

L.1993, c. 159, § 4, eff. June 20, 1993.

Amended by:

L.2003, c. 116, § 11, eff. July 1, 2003.

5:12-173.5 Responsibility for collection of fees

Each person subject to the provisions of section 3 of P.L.1993, c.159 (C.5:12-173.3) shall be responsible for the collection of the fees imposed pursuant thereto, which shall be collected as part of the charge made for the use of a parking space. Amounts so collected shall be forwarded to the State Treasurer. The commission shall determine and certify to the State Treasurer on a monthly basis the amount of revenues which are payable as directed by section 4 of P.L.1993, c.159 (C.5:12-173.4). The State Treasurer, upon certification of the commission and upon warrant of the State Comptroller, and subject to the pertinent requirements of section 4 of P.L.1993, c.159 (C.5:12-173.4) shall pay and distribute on a monthly basis pursuant to section 4 of P.L.1993, c.159 (C.5:12-173.4) the amount so certified.

L.1993, c. 159, § 5, eff. June 20, 1993.

Amended by:

L.2003, c. 116, § 12, eff. July 1, 2003.

L.2004, c. 128, § 7, eff. Aug. 25, 2004.

[mostsmooth]

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Last time I checked, just a few months ago. Casino control didn't allow casino's to charge more than $5 for parking. They also stipulate that casino's can't charge someone for parking who already paid it at another casino that day. Wonder how they're getting around the $5 rule... has the law been changed?

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i doubt this is a ccc rule, as there was a casino (i believe it was the trop, duh?) that was charging $25 to park between like 7am and 10am or something to stop the construction workers from parking there while they were building the new trop stuff. there was a big ruckus about it, but never any mention of ccc rules.

[MD2020]

I just got back from the Trop a couple of hours ago. It's $10 for parking, but if you're a Diamond Club member or have a hotel receipt, it's only 4 dollars.

BTW, a little off topic: I went to the Poker Room there on Saturday around 7:00 PM, and I was seated almost immediately. Are the games usually like that at the Trop? I'm used to waiting a few hours at the Borgata; I was pretty shocked. Might have to go there more often.

[jar]

What's the "Diamond Club"? I have a poker card, is there some other card I have to get?

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What's the "Diamond Club"? I have a poker card, is there some other card I have to get?

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It's just the name for the regular comp card at the Trop. You know, the kind you put in slots or video poker.

[Luv2DriveTT]

Yep, thats about average for the Trop. Seating is rather quick, no more than 20 mins and thats when they are slammed.

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[Jeffage]

I'm kinda wondering whether the Trop will eventually get some bigger poker games. With the poker boom and the fact that they have a lot more foot traffic now, you'd think they could get a 20-40/30-60 type game going if they pushed it hard. I like the Trop, but don't go because they don't have middle limit games.

Jeff

[BAK]

So, yesterday when I went from the Taj to the Sands, I shouldn't have had to pay for parking at the Sands? Just show them the receipt from the Taj and I'm in?

Good to know.



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[Bremen]

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I don't see anything in the casino control act that caps the fees for parking.

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huh, well I guess my memory is faulty.

[Mike Gallo]

Drew,

Show the attendant your poker card. You will only pay $4.00.

[WWJFergusonD?]

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BTW, a little off topic: I went to the Poker Room there on Saturday around 7:00 PM, and I was seated almost immediately. Are the games usually like that at the Trop? I'm used to waiting a few hours at the Borgata; I was pretty shocked. Might have to go there more often.

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Yep. That's what we'll do, at least until the Borg completes its expansion. My husband and I were pretty diehard 6-12 Borg fans, but just got fed up with the grueling waits and the inability to take the time to actually enjoy the great restaurants there. I mean, we wanted to enjoy the whole Borgata experience, but we couldn't do that when we had to worry about wait lists, dinner lists, and all that stuff in the poker room.

Finally, one weekend, we thought we'd give the Trop (where he'd previously played for years, pre-Borg [and pre-me!!]) a try. We were completely shocked -- and in a positive way! At the Trop, we were able to get into games almost immediately and we could enjoy great restaurants in the Quarter without having to worry about getting back into games afterward. We could sleep late in the AM. And finally, the floor people actually were friendly and didn't act put-out when you talked to them. Wow!

Sure, there are some drawbacks to the Trop. The rooms aren't as nice. The liquor isn't as good. (Please, let's not hear anything, yet again, about the waitresses....) And the Trop doesn't offer those desirable middle limit games (at least not at this point).

(Oh, and one other thing the Trop has going for it: It's not nearly as scuzzy and degenerate-filled as the Taj.)

So, all in all, the Trop's a great place to hang out and actually play some cards instead of wait around and stare at loooooong lists of initials on flat screens.

[xxJEDIxx]

Can you just park somewhere free and walk? These are the type of expenses I havent calculated in, and I am cheep!

[Mike Gallo]

I arrived at the Borgata Saturday night around 10:00 and jumped right into a game.

The no limit games have the longest lists, the limit games (6-12, 10-20, 20-40) had minimal lists.

[poker327]

I got there at 3:30 ish and had 30 min -1 hr wait. There were six 10/20 tables at the time, but there was a list and no one was leaving. At around 8:00, they broke one of the 10/20 tables because of a lack of players.

[Mike Gallo]

At around 8:00, they broke one of the 10/20 tables because of a lack of players

The table we sat at Saturday night broke up after I left. That was like 12:30.

[DrewOnTilt]

If you don't mind parking on the streets in crappy neighborhoods, then yes. I have parked at the meters before and have only once gotten ticketed.

[poker327]

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The table we sat at Saturday night broke up after I left. That was like 12:30.

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I am the one who broke it. I did not want to play six handed (I know, the table was good and all, but I don't play short well).

[Mike Gallo]

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The table we sat at Saturday night broke up after I left. That was like 12:30.

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I am the one who broke it. I did not want to play six handed (I know, the table was good and all, but I don't play short well).

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Against those donks you had a perfect spot to learn how to play well /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[LockLow34]

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BTW, a little off topic: I went to the Poker Room there on Saturday around 7:00 PM, and I was seated almost immediately. Are the games usually like that at the Trop? I'm used to waiting a few hours at the Borgata; I was pretty shocked. Might have to go there more often.

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That's why I love playing the Trop. Little if any wait at all for poker.

[queenie]

just go to the borgata...i hardly ever wait...plus i don't pay for parking...it's really not that bad...

[jdaddy]

If you are that cheap, and I am, simply go to Harrahs or Showboat (with a players card) drive through the parking garage which is free and get a receipt which any AC casino will honor. Note that Borgata will not give you a receipt if you are a Black Label card holder which receives free parking.
One thing I did learn last week was that the parking receipt transfer expires at 6:00 am the following day. So this will only work if you are leaving the parking deck before 6:00 am or if they collect the ticket and/or payment upon entry such as Ceasars, Sands, Trump.