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imported_leader
05-01-2005, 01:21 AM
SB is tight and fairly passive 20/4/.7 over 79 hands
MP3 has managed to find 9 hands to play out of the 11 he's been at the table.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, MP3 folds, Hero...

In the heat of battle I called, but I think that him calling the 3-bet and CR'ing the turn should have been enough to send this one to the muck. What do you think?
KDawgCometh
05-01-2005, 01:24 AM
yes in hindsight I'd let TPTK go, but I know that I can get really indignant at times with this hand and wouldn't fault you for calling it down after the turn CR
timprov
05-01-2005, 06:09 AM
You're getting 6:1 to call down, so at the very least it's not a big mistake. Plus I think the chance he has K5 or worse is high.
MoDOH
05-01-2005, 08:39 AM
Against this particular sequence of betting this is a easy fold
That guy
05-01-2005, 11:28 AM
I think those stats are just enough to call this guy a 'typical' tightish-player. And I think vs this profile, your top pair is no good here (a check-raise on a turn blank after a lot of action on flop). There is an outside chance he is semi-bluffing... But I would say that the odds of this are relatively low (and he will convert his semi-bluff ~20% of the time anyway). I used to always call this down but in my experience, you are better off letting go of this hand vs this particular opponent.
timprov
05-01-2005, 11:45 AM
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You're getting 6:1 to call down, so at the very least it's not a big mistake. Plus I think the chance he has K5 or worse is high.

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Sorry, I had SB and MP3 confused. I'm still calling this down most of the time, though.
Chris Dow
05-01-2005, 12:59 PM
Call. Do you see why? I'll let others elaborate.
Fnord
05-01-2005, 01:15 PM
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Against this particular sequence of betting this is a easy fold

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Call, particularly if you think he's a thinking player.

Why would a hand stronger than TPTK go out of his way to face the field with 2 cold on the turn?
That guy
05-01-2005, 01:21 PM
Why would a hand stronger than TPTK go out of his way to face the field with 2 cold on the turn?

uh, the 'field' is one guy. maybe because he understands poker and likes to play good hands aggressively...
free=good
05-01-2005, 04:23 PM
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Call. Do you see why? I'll let others elaborate.

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No, maybe we don't. But instead of you letting someone else enlighten us, why don't you explain it - it's apparently a very easy concept for you.