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QTip
04-30-2005, 01:00 PM
Some time back, The Dude posted that one of my big problems was not thinking ahead. Since then, I've been trying to concentrate on later action. How's my plan here?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, Hero ??

MP1 was pretty aggressive and about down to the felt. BB is 20/10/2 but knows when it's time to muck.

Here's my thinking.

I decided to just call the flop bet and hope I can keep BB in for one more and then bet out again on the flop hoping BB calls and MP1 raises again.

I did have a question when I was thinking of this though. If BB raises, what should I do? My decision was that if BB called and MP1 raised, I would go ahead and three bet UI. Since my hand is still somewhat vunerable.

What would you do if you caught the full house on the turn?

I decided I would stick with the same plan, but instead smooth call a raise from MP1 and keep BB in it and then bet out on the river.

How's my thinking?

joesbarngrill
04-30-2005, 01:36 PM
Id typically call and raise the turn bet. Nobody is folding a draw if you raise MP1. BB has shown no strength, MP1 could have a pocket pair or queens. I think you call the flop and either raise MP1's turn bet or fold if BB raises a third club.

QTip
04-30-2005, 05:51 PM
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I decided to just call the flop raise and hope I can keep BB in for one more and then bet out again on the turn (club or not club) hoping BB calls and MP1 raises again.

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Had to correct this.

27offsooot
04-30-2005, 05:56 PM
yeah, bet/3-bet looks good on turn. If the pot were bigger, I would protect it w/ a c/r, but here I would go for value.

QTip
04-30-2005, 10:03 PM
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If the pot were bigger, I would protect it w/ a c/r, but here I would go for value.

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Great point. Always must consider pot size, and honestly, I was thinking about it at that point.