Wow..... where is my R-E-S-P-E-C-T?? (Low Content)

[TheDelChop]

Ok here we go. MP1 in this hand is 70/5/0.34 with a went to showdown % of 23%.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif. CO posts a blind of $4.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, Hero raises, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (9.66 SB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds.

Turn: (6.33 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

River: (9.33 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 11.33 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP1 has 9d Jd (one pair, sevens).
Hero has 9c 8c (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: MP1 wins 11.33 BB. </font>

(Hero's jaw hits the floor.....)

[27offsooot]

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Ok here we go. MP1 in this hand is 70/5/0.34 with a went to showdown % of 23%.

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Was this over 10 hands? 23% WTSD doesn't quite sound right here. If anyone can estimate or at least guess how many hands for a reasonable WTSD read to be accurate, I would appreciate it.

[mannika]

Standard deviation for the WSD% is equal to:

(WSD%)*(1-WSD%)/(%seenflop*hands)^(1/2)

So if in the above case we had 100 hands on villain and seenflop% was about 75%, then standard deviation = (0.27)*(0.73)/(75)^(1/2) = 2.28%

[threeonefour]

is raising 98s on the button standard? i know a lot of players talk about doing it for a plethora of reasons but to me, i rather just see a cheap multiway flop.

with 3 limpers do you think you have an equity edge with this hand?

i don't see how deception would be all that valuable in a multi-way 3/6 hand(most players good and bad basically autopilot).

[Buck_65]

Villain is a master of the value call.

[CallMeIshmael]

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is raising 98s on the button standard? i know a lot of players talk about doing it for a plethora of reasons but to me, i rather just see a cheap multiway flop.

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Raising is pretty attractive to me here.

[brazilio]

It's discussed a lot, along with raising mid and low pairs on the button after 3+ limpers. SSH or HEPFAP go over it a bit, but I've always read it as mostly an element of mixing up your play, although there are some reasons to do it. Probably just from personal choice I'm more liable to raise suited connectors than I am pockets.

[TheDelChop]

Yeah I agree with the attractiveness of raising. You sometimes do get credit for a better hand than you hold, plus if you do make your hand its often the nuts or at least close enough to win you the big pot.