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SomethingClever
04-30-2005, 10:18 AM
Right time to give up?

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (2.25 BB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

Again, right time to give up?

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (11 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, MP calls $0.50 (All-In).

River: (13.62 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: 13.62 BB

MrTeddyKGB
04-30-2005, 11:22 AM
reads?

Bill Smith
04-30-2005, 11:31 AM
Hand 1: If MP is the type that will always play back in a heads up situation and almost always do so by bluffing the turn, then call it down. Otherwise, it's a lay down.

Hand 2: Tough one with a guy all-in. I think this is okay unless Button is crazy.

Mr. Graff
04-30-2005, 11:45 AM
Hand 1: The opponent would have to be very LAG for me to call this down. The pot is small.

Hand 2: Very read dependant. You are getting approx. 7:1 and you have 4 outs which isn't enough. But given that MP is shortstacked button could very well be trying to force out a hand like yours with a Q or K. If button is tricky and capable of plays like, calling the turn (and the river no matter what card comes) may be +EV. On the other hand, when factoring in the chance that MP has you beat, I'm really not sure it is worth it. I'm leaning toward folding.