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fnord_too
04-30-2005, 09:17 AM
How are the turn and river here?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP2 ($198.75)
MP3 ($134.30)
CO ($288.45)
Button ($92.70)
SB ($130.45)
BB ($194)
UTG ($190.40)
Hero ($198)
UTG+2 ($204.60)
MP1 ($254.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $6, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $5, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($26) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $18, SB folds.

Turn: ($62) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, MP3 calls $40.

River: ($142) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $70.3 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $70.30.

Final Pot: $282.60

Finite_Risk
04-30-2005, 09:58 AM
If you lost to a set he sure didn't defend it well vs the flush draw...seems like maybe AKs, missed flush, tried to buy pot?

CHiPS
05-01-2005, 12:58 AM
I'd call the River also. I usually don't like to commit my entire stack on an overpair, but this is Aces. He could have a lower overpair. The pot is offering you 3:1 odds. I'm guessing you're better than 3:1 against to win. And this is the tough part of poker for me - just what are the odds that someone has you beat when they go all in here. If I know the person I use my knowledge of him to sway the decision. But when you don't know the person the question really is what does the average person at these limts do. I haven't been in this situation 1,000 times at this limit so I don't really know the odds.

fnord_too
05-01-2005, 09:22 AM
Villain flipped up A /images/graemlins/spade.gif3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif for the busted flush draw and MHIG.

I really did not feel at all in control of this hand. Playing an overpair on draw heavy board out of position is just not something I am comfortable with. I felt like I got myself committed to the hand when he villain called the flop because if he is on a draw (not at all unlikely with that board) I really hate giving a free card. But if I bet any reasonable ammount on the turn, I am pretty much committed on the river unless maybe a spade falls. Of course there is also the very real possibility that I am pumping money into a straight or set or even two pair (though 2p I think would have raised).

How am I supposed to play this type of hand? Am I doomed to putting all my chips in if I don't get raised on the flop and a blank comes on the turn?

Rotating Rabbit
05-01-2005, 09:27 AM
Dude, you played this perfect, every single street.

A set or 2 pair should raise the flop because of the draw possibilities, so its a good bet villian has an open ender or 4-flush, and is also an idiot with no concept of pot odds. And you must check/call the river.

NYCNative
05-01-2005, 09:38 AM
Was that the kind of table that would normally get 4 callers with a 3BB Preflop raise? If so, I would have raised more before the flop. Any more than one or two callers increases your chances of being cracked exponentially.

That's the only thing I do differently.

If a table is raising a lot of pots I will limp in with Aces or Kings UTG or UTG+1 counting on making a huge preflop reraise - I love that play - but it can be risky.