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Vivalution
04-30-2005, 02:04 AM
Well, I am new here and read a little about clarkmeister's theorem. I know it has more to do with the river and with flushes, but this situation seems pretty similar. I have seen the villian put alot of bets into pots only to fold later in the hand, so I felt I could push him off any two overs.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

So rate the play, is this a use of clarkmeister's or some other weird twoplustwo theorem?

wrto4556
04-30-2005, 02:05 AM
This isn't a theorem. Nice bluff, though. I need a read to make a play like that.

chesspain
04-30-2005, 02:11 AM
You should have reraised preflop.

Vivalution
04-30-2005, 02:17 AM
More I think about it I agree with re-raising pre-flop. I have problems with putting alot of money in before the flop out of position though. I think I am misplaying my blinds, probably playing to tight, and definately not aggressive enough.

Not to get off topic but is it a mistake to call a middle position raiser with 3 callers in the big blind with T7o?

chesspain
04-30-2005, 02:18 AM
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Not to get off topic but is it a mistake to call a middle position raiser with 3 callers in the big blind with T7o?

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Yes

Gabe
04-30-2005, 02:23 AM
it's called called floating. it's not a theorem.

Michael Davis
04-30-2005, 02:25 AM
"it's called called floating. it's not a theorem."

You're floating in the wrong forum.

-Michael

rmarotti
04-30-2005, 04:10 AM
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Not to get off topic but is it a mistake to call a middle position raiser with 3 callers in the big blind with T7o?

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Sometimes

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fyp

ceskylev
04-30-2005, 04:25 AM
To show strength and/or isolate the open raiser? Or do you 3-bet this in most cases?

GetThere1Time
04-30-2005, 04:44 AM
3 bet preflop

StellarWind
04-30-2005, 12:16 PM
3-bet preflop to remove BB from the hand. It is rarely good to just call a raise from the SB with no one else in the pot yet. You benefit so much from getting heads up with a hand that has showdown value.

Justin A
04-30-2005, 02:01 PM
It's not Clark's theorem, this is a donk bet.

Vivalution
04-30-2005, 05:21 PM
I tried a search but was unable to find anything. What exactly does a donk bet refer to?

RustedCorpse
04-30-2005, 05:39 PM
Rusted Corpse Theorm:

If there is an EP, MP raise and you're still willing to play AQo, DO NOT COLD CALL. RAISE.

BottlesOf
04-30-2005, 05:40 PM
So all that pounding away sunk in finally, eh?

CallMeIshmael
04-30-2005, 05:42 PM
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To show strength and/or isolate the open raiser? Or do you 3-bet this in most cases?

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It depends on the situation. But when MP3 opens, he is probably raising a wider range than normal, and AQ does well vs that range.


(WOW! A post in which I didnt say 'clutch'!!)