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Double Eagle
04-30-2005, 01:49 AM
Stars 11r tonite, about 200 people left. I have been bouncing from table to table, have not seen the short stack play a hand yet. The MP caller had a massive stack but just blew 60k of it by calling all in with nothing but the idiot end of an OESD. I strongly suspect tilt and that he will call an all in if I push. What's my play?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t30747)
BB (t125772)
UTG (t14825)
UTG+1 (t11899)
MP1 (t33642)
MP2 (t31017)
CO (t16060)
Button (t33085)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t11849</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t11849, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font> Hero ?????

Roman
04-30-2005, 02:44 AM
ez fold.

invisibleleadsoup
04-30-2005, 03:53 AM
push
you may or may not be ahead of the short stack,but there's a good chance you'll get a coinflip
the main thing is the very good chance the big stack will call with a hand you dominate
there's 200 people left in this tournament,looks like you've got a pretty good stack,but this is a clear cut opportunity to accumulate a massive stack,and you'll be unlucky to end up the hand worse off than you started
if you're unlucky and the short stack has aces and the bigstack has also hit a monster/outdraws you,so be it,there'll be other tournaments,i presume you play them all the time...
this is a chance to put yourself in an excellent position here
no point playing big tournaments if you're just going to try to survive

bugstud
04-30-2005, 03:54 AM
I push and complain.

Generally you'll have 60+ equity on the side, and that's enough for me. If he mucks you have 2:1 on the main which is enough for everything but AA.

tiger7210
04-30-2005, 04:41 AM
Maybe this is a bit weak/tight but I think i fold here unless your read on MP2 as fairly poor player.

Short stack who pushes really isn't that short- he still has ~14 BB's left. He has AK or some middle pair normally here.

Mp2 cold calls this huge raise for 1/3 of his stack and doesn't isolate with 4 people still to act who all have nice healthy stacks. Typically that is a sign of a huge hand that doesn't mind anyone behind coming along for the ride.

I fold AQ here all day when i have close to 40 BB's.

Maybe I'm a bit biased though when it comes to AQ as it is the single biggest loser of all my chips.

JaBlue
04-30-2005, 04:43 AM
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I push and complain.

Generally you'll have 60+ equity on the side, and that's enough for me. If he mucks you have 2:1 on the main which is enough for everything but AA.

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This is exactly why I push here too.

USCUNC
05-01-2005, 01:40 AM
Tuff call - but I would likely grumble to my self and fold it. AQ off suit is at best a calling hand. If you just call chances are the BB with 125K is going to take the pot odds and call or go over the top. If you push all in; likely the 30K Middie will call you and flip a pp or AK - so you are likely behind out the gate.

I'd want to be heads up with that guy for his chips and you can't be certain you will - so - its an easy fold.

Afterall what do you do when the big stack - pushes all 125K in when the flop is K 7 3?

You either got to be all in here or all out. I'd suggest sit it out.

Regards