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fooz
04-29-2005, 11:24 AM
CO is a solid TAG. MP's a fish.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (9.70 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: (12.70 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 folds.

Final Pot: 14.70 BB

27offsooot
04-29-2005, 11:31 AM
I seem to always call this river, but I would like to think I could fold it. I don't think you're best 7% of the time or whatever. Damn Ed Miller.

Yobz
04-29-2005, 12:09 PM
There is no way you are good, but there is no way you can fold.

StellarWind
04-29-2005, 12:14 PM
You don't get away from this hand. It's much too good to fold just because a TAG says you should.

The only thing I would usually do differently is the flop. I would bet the flop expecting to be autoraised by the TAG 3-bettor. The idea is to trap the fish into paying multiple bets to see the turn. If I confront him with two bets cold and he chooses to fold he has probably done the right thing. That plus the fact that I may be drawing makes it in my best interest to keep him around to pad the pot.

GetThere1Time
04-29-2005, 12:19 PM
I've laid a hand like this down to players who won't 3 bet preflop with anything less than JJ, QQ, KK, AA, or AK, and that would never 3-bet this flop without an overpair. Can you fold this hand on the turn if you have a good read here?

(I'm not saying its correct here per se. Just for the sake of conversation.)

RyGreen18
04-29-2005, 12:23 PM
i would have played every street the same. i like the raise on the flop to protect a vunerable hand. the 3-bet from CO smells like an overpair. still, im not folding. c/c the turn and river every time here. i like it. villian shows KK or QQ

fooz
04-29-2005, 12:25 PM
Ok. What if I bet into the flop, call the raise, bet into the turn and fold to a raise?

He showed down KK. Not sure if he'd have the cojones to raise the turn with that anyway.

*nevermind*

too many outs on the turn to lay down to a raise...I'm back to check-calling, but betting out if I hit.

fooz
04-29-2005, 12:28 PM
To Stellarwind's point, I don't think the hand is that vulnerable.