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1C5
04-29-2005, 11:03 AM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t500 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t1900)
Button (t2210)
SB (t1120)
BB (t2770)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ?

Phil Van Sexton
04-29-2005, 11:07 AM
Didn't you get eastbay's calculator?

I don't have it handy, but I know I wouldn't fold.

microbet
04-29-2005, 11:24 AM
Push. Very +$EV. On eastbay's thing you have to put them all on Loose to make it -$EV or you can have the two bigger stacks on average and the small stack on maniac.

Phil, you mean you push right? You aren't suggesting limping and pushing the flop are you? No, nevermind, you wouldn't do that.

vindikation
04-29-2005, 11:34 AM
33 vs 22?

Wasn't there just a post yesterday about 22 being a -EV push?

Can someone post a link to eastbays calculation thing?

Thanks

microbet
04-29-2005, 11:44 AM
In this case I think 22 is good as well. I have done a number of these where 22 was bad and 33 was good or 33 vs 44 or 44 vs 55.

If you go to eastbay's profile, you'll see a link.

1C5
04-29-2005, 04:35 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Didn't you get eastbay's calculator?

I don't have it handy, but I know I wouldn't fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah I did the calc and it is "close enough that pushing and folfing are both reasonable plays".

luckyplayer
04-29-2005, 07:54 PM
What ranges did you put the players on? Without reads, I figure big stack is probably average, but neither SB nor Button will call here without the tight range. Do you think either player calls what could be a crippling/eliminating all in without these cards?

Scuba Chuck
04-30-2005, 01:35 AM
Damn, that blind is monstrous. That's what makes this hand interesting. If this was 100/200, I'm pretty sure folding is +$EV. IMO, the only person you're really worried about is short stack. His range, IMO is going to be a little loose. But because you end up with chips remaining after a loss to shorty, ICM will say it's +$EV. What it won't consider (and important to think about) is that you are immediately BB after this hand.

Alas, I'm pretty sure this is +$EV to push here (and you you'll feel queesy doing it).

I'll check Eastbay's doo hickey:
Under the L setting for small stack, and T for the other 2, Eastbays tool says it's +$EV by 1.3%. An interesting statistic here is that it says 45% of the time you do this, YOU WILL GET CALLED.