Who Owns The AMAZONBONUS code

[Exsubmariner]

This was the bonus code I signed up under when I first created my account at Party. I'm wondering now which affiliate owns it. I feel kind of silly that I paid about 5K in rake playing the .5/$1 game and someone who just put up a little profile on Amazon and wrote poker book reviews which included that code got to keep most of it.
In this whole affiliate discussion that is happening, the moere I learn about it, the more I wonder... wouldn't there be a counterstrategy for rakeback offering affiliates to simply take away business from non rakeback offering affiliates? It could be as easy as making an add like "If you used the AMAZONBONUS code to sign up at Party, you've been screwed" with a link to a website about rakeback and affiliates. I don't see why rakeback affiliates with large player bases couldn't act together in concert to undermine partys whole antirakeback sceme....I seems like the nonrackbackers are just a bunch of greedy trash and that their greed could be used against them because it is their primary character flaw and weakness. Why allow Party to reward them for it?
Perhaps not necessarily offering rakeback outright but just offering insane regular player programs that even losing players would go for. I don't know, things like trips, gift certs to online retailers, cruises, motorcycles, automobiles, etc. Like high roller packages in Vegas. After all, how many high rollers do you think are overall winners? Seems to work great for the B&M casinos... just rambling thoughts....
No trolling intended here fellows.... I am trying to contribute to the discussion.

[teddyFBI]

This was discussed in the book forum a little while ago -- sorry, couldn't find the thread, but you might try searching for it.

[Exsubmariner]

Thank you, Teddy. I admit I searched the word AMAZONBONUS and the words "amazon bonus" in the books forum, but could not find it. Do you remember what the topic of the discussion was?

[GrannyMae]

many of the big names from butch boyd to moneymaker used the personal review sections there to spam codes.

i would imagine it is one of the famous folk. if you put "amazonbonus" into google, you get a bunch of poker returns

[AAmaz0n]

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Who Owns The AMAZONBONUS code

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Sadly enough, not me. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Shauna

[sourcerer]

Wait a minute...now you're almost insinuating the non-rakeback affiliate is scamming you. He gets something in return for a service provided to you, as do the rakeback providers.
When you get more involved in online poker you find out about the rakeback deals and think 'darn, if only I had known'...and sign up to another poker-site through a rakeback provider.

If it weren't for that amazon guy you might not even have played online poker.

Yes, he could have told you to sign up through a rakeback provider but in all fairness, it wouldn't have been too smart of him.

But "If you used the AMAZONBONUS code to sign up at Party, you've been screwed" is a plain lie.
Noone screwed you, you wouldn't have gotten more if you got there by typing www.partypoker.com (http://www.partypoker.com), and it's not his responsibility to tell you to join a rakeback program. I mean, if he wanted to protect your wallet he'd have told you to stay the @#$@#$ away from any form of gambling.

It was just a step in the learning process. In every trade you have to learn skills to make your business more profitable, you only acquire those skills through persistence.
Rakeback is just one of them.

Kaj

[IggyWH]

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I seems like the nonrackbackers are just a bunch of greedy trash and that their greed could be used against them because it is their primary character flaw and weakness.

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Yeah, you're right... they're greedy trash for following the rules.

I swear people just get dumber and dumber! RAKEBACK IS ILLEGAL!!! CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?!?!?!

...and you're saying their greedy yet you're the one bitching about money here.

[Exsubmariner]

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If it weren't for that amazon guy you might not even have played online poker.



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Actually, not true. I played at Planet Poker long before I played at Party, and that site I found on my own.
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[Exsubmariner]

I'm playing poker to make myself rich, not my affiliate. Please show me where there is a law written in Gibralter, Antigua, Isle of Man or other nation that hosts online poker that says rakeback is illegal. In point of fact, it is not against the law, just Party's rules. Rules that are written for them to make the most money with as little return to their customers as they can get away with. I submit that if a pokersite was in tune with their cornerstone customers (that is players who come back over and over, winners or losers) and rewarded them lavishly, the dividends would be huge. I agree with others that Party is writing it's own demise here. Somewhere, someone is going to see what they are doing wrong and institute their own policy that is a much better deal for all their players. This is how the market operates. You learn from the mistakes of your predecessors. I digress. I would love to see a players program that resembles the high roller packages of Las Vegas. I made $550 in rakeback last month. That's enough to pay for a cruise for me and my girl. Why couldn't an affiliate offer an incentive program with a package like that? They would still make money. They would drive other affiliates who kept it all out of business. The only poker sites whose player programs come close to something like this is I think Stars and UB. One of those has a motorcycle as their top reward, but you have to pay them well over $1000000 in rake to get it, so it's not really that great of a deal. You could get a package worth 10K in Vegas by giving them 4 hours of big action a day. Even with all the overlay, they make money. The sites are going to make money off the rake. Period. If I am going to bring them action at their tables and be a winner that they can hold up to fuel the dreams of the fish, I want a cut. That's only fair for them to consider my interests.
I've got it, why don't you go out and find yourself an affiliate and let them get 40% of all the rake you pay and make them rich as a form of protest against the rakebackers. I'm sure they'll be very happy with your decision.
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[Freudian]

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Wait a minute...now you're almost insinuating the non-rakeback affiliate is scamming you. He gets something in return for a service provided to you, as do the rakeback providers.

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In this day and age when rakeback is so common, any affiliate not offering it is scamming the player IMO.

[Exsubmariner]

Thank you Granny, I had not thought of googling it. Actually something just occured to the competitor in me... I may have made someone money that they will potentially be using to play against me one day. Yikes! /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[The4Aces]

rake back is not ILLEGAL it might be against a sights terms but certiannly not ILLEGAL

[IggyWH]

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rake back is not ILLEGAL it might be against a sights terms but certiannly not ILLEGAL

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Since this seems directed at me, I'll leave you the definition of illegal :

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=illegal

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<ul type="square"> Prohibited by law. Prohibited by official rules: an illegal pass in football. Unacceptable to or not performable by a computer: an illegal operation. [/list]

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So please, tell me again it's not illegal...

[Kevin K.]

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rake back is not ILLEGAL it might be against a sights terms but certiannly not ILLEGAL

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Since this seems directed at me, I'll leave you the definition of illegal :

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=illegal

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<ul type="square"> Prohibited by law. Prohibited by official rules: an illegal pass in football. Unacceptable to or not performable by a computer: an illegal operation. [/list]

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So please, tell me again it's not illegal...

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You are fighting a battle that is beyond stupid. Let it go.