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juanez
04-29-2005, 06:48 AM
Man, who opened the doors to the asylum tonight?

Ejection #1:
I just finished my down at a table and moved on to the next. The table I just left was great - lots of action, everyone seemed to be having a great time and there were 3 generous dealers from 2 different casinos playing. Maybe 4 or 5 hands later, I hear a guy from that table FREAKING out, screaming and yelling. I look over to see one of the Blackjack dealers from a neighboring casino standing up and hurling racial slurs at a Hispanic girl at the table. He was REALLY going nuts. I mean he really looked like he was going to kill this girl.

The floor people and security are on him instantly and he's ejected immediately. This dealer actually had his "Mountain High Blackjack" shirt on, black pants and shoes, etc.. What a dipsh*t.

Apparently, he hit a gutshot on the river and beat the Hispanic girl who had 2 pair. The Hispanic girl said "You bastard..." under her breath. Witnesses say that she wasn't being aggressive or mean, it was more in a playful sort of way like "You got me man..." This girl plays almost every night and is cool as hell. I can’t imagine her being nasty - ever. Even if she was being nasty, it's no excuse for this guy to go berzerk the way he did.

And this dealer stands up in full uniform and rages away, spewing forth racial slurs for all of the poker room to hear. Every person in the room was looking at him. WTF was he thinking? /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Ejection #2:
Two grumpy Asian players (guy and girl) are verbally abusing me every hand (Omaha 8/B), throwing cards, throwing chips, etc. BTW, I only mention that they are Asian because I can hardly understand them except for the "Lousy dealer", "Bad dealer", etc. comments.

After a few hands I tell them "Please stop throwing cards and chips guys." They ignore me. A couple of hands later, a deck change is required because the guy tosses his cards and one flies off of the table. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

Other players at the table were saying things like "Let's just play cards" and "Isn't this supposed to be fun?" These two were out of control and affecting the game, so I wave the floor person over.

While the floor person is walking over, a player has had enough and gets up. The Asian guy has a Seat Change button and stands up to take the leaving players seat. He pushes his chips to seat 5 and walks around the table. He gets to seat 5 and whips the seat change button at me, hitting me straight in the chest.

The floor person was standing right there...instant ejection.

The guy demands that the Colorado Div. of Gaming get called because he swears that he didn’t throw the chip at me. LMAO - the whole table saw it.

The Asian chick freaked out even more of course, demanding that she be allowed to sit out until a "good" dealer comes in without getting a penalty for missing the blinds. The floor denies this ridiculous request of course. I gently toss a missed blind button her way when it's her BB and she refuses to answer my prompt for her blind.

An hour later, the CDOG arrives, interviews a bunch of us and tells the douchebag to accompany the security guy to the casino exit.

I really do not like seeing people being tossed out. I figure that the offenders, when telling the story to their friends, will warp any story to make it look we were the asssholes regardless of what the truth is, so we may lose players. On the other hand, if we allowed said douchbags to ramain, the decent people would not allow it and leave. Either way, it's a bad scene.

Whatever...interesting night though. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Al_Capone_Junior
04-29-2005, 11:07 AM
Boot 'em all. Good riddance. A-holes in poker rooms cause more problems than they are worth, and the only ones they are going to scare off after their ejections are their friends, who are probably A-holes too.

al

imitation
04-29-2005, 11:43 AM
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BTW, I only mention that they are Asian because I can hardly understand them except for the "Lousy dealer", "Bad dealer", etc. comments.

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HUH??

You sound like a wanker.

youtalkfunny
04-29-2005, 11:54 AM
Glad to hear the room cares about keeping out riff-raff like this.

Most poker managers seem reluctant to eject the obnoxious, thinking that they are losing a customer. They don't see that allowing the creep to stay costs them a lot more than ONE customer, as the rest of the players decide that playing in this room with these idiots is not an enjoyable experience.

IronDragon1
04-29-2005, 12:08 PM
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BTW, I only mention that they are Asian because I can hardly understand them except for the "Lousy dealer", "Bad dealer", etc. comments.

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HUH??

You sound like a wanker.

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Are you offended by this?

I'm Asian and I'm not.

I'm glad those bastards (and the other dude) got what was coming to them.

TakeMeToTheRiver
04-29-2005, 01:00 PM
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BTW, I only mention that they are Asian because I can hardly understand them except for the "Lousy dealer", "Bad dealer", etc. comments.

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HUH??

You sound like a wanker.

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Are you offended by this?

I'm Asian and I'm not.

I'm glad those bastards (and the other dude) got what was coming to them.

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I am not Asian, but I also don't think it was necessary to single them out as Asian (making the wanker comment understandable). If he said that the offensive players kept calling him a lousy dealer with a thick accent that he could hardly understand, that would be sufficient. Identifying them as Asian adds absolutely nothing to the story. Arseholes come in all shapes and sizes.

Lurshy
04-29-2005, 01:24 PM
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Identifying them as Asian adds absolutely nothing to the story

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Hogwash, he didn't mention it in any derrogatory fashion, but to help you imagine the scene. Statement of fact.

If they were foreign with thick accents, you may picture russian, turkish, scandanavian, israeli, mexican, etc. But whats the big deal if he points your mind to the right continient of origin. We all know that two rude people at a table does not indict a whole race.

ace_in_the_hole
04-29-2005, 01:47 PM
I think that we can mention a person's race without automatically assuming it is in a durogatory manner.
BTW good story Jaunez. I need to come up to the "Hill" soon and pay you a visit. /images/graemlins/smile.gif You're at the Gilpin?

smoore
04-29-2005, 03:02 PM
Kick them all out. Bastards. At least it wasn't a MH poker dealer!

JerseyTom
04-29-2005, 03:18 PM
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Identifying them as Asian adds absolutely nothing to the story

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Hogwash, he didn't mention it in any derrogatory fashion, but to help you imagine the scene. Statement of fact.

If they were foreign with thick accents, you may picture russian, turkish, scandanavian, israeli, mexican, etc. But whats the big deal if he points your mind to the right continient of origin. We all know that two rude people at a table does not indict a whole race.

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Not to mention that those Hispanic chicks are always muttering stuff under their breath...

daryn
04-29-2005, 03:25 PM
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BTW, I only mention that they are Asian because I can hardly understand them except for the "Lousy dealer", "Bad dealer", etc. comments.

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HUH??

You sound like a wanker.

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Are you offended by this?

I'm Asian and I'm not.

I'm glad those bastards (and the other dude) got what was coming to them.

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I am not Asian, but I also don't think it was necessary to single them out as Asian (making the wanker comment understandable). If he said that the offensive players kept calling him a lousy dealer with a thick accent that he could hardly understand, that would be sufficient. Identifying them as Asian adds absolutely nothing to the story. Arseholes come in all shapes and sizes.

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good lord do i hate you.

Bulldog
04-29-2005, 03:44 PM
THERE IS NOTHING RACIST ABOUT THIS POST. RACE CAN BE MENTIONED AND DISCUSSED WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION BASED ON RACE.

Juanez, you sound like a good dealer and a better guy. If I'm ever in Colorado I'd like to shake your hand.

TakeMeToTheRiver
04-29-2005, 03:48 PM
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BTW, I only mention that they are Asian because I can hardly understand them except for the "Lousy dealer", "Bad dealer", etc. comments.

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HUH??

You sound like a wanker.

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Are you offended by this?

I'm Asian and I'm not.

I'm glad those bastards (and the other dude) got what was coming to them.

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I am not Asian, but I also don't think it was necessary to single them out as Asian (making the wanker comment understandable). If he said that the offensive players kept calling him a lousy dealer with a thick accent that he could hardly understand, that would be sufficient. Identifying them as Asian adds absolutely nothing to the story. Arseholes come in all shapes and sizes.

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good lord do i hate you.

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I was avoiding any futher posting since the thread has already been hijacked on this perpheral point but your post made me laugh out loud. For the record -- All of those ejected were idiots deserving ejection regardless of their race, color or species. Now back to the other crap:

What is your problem??? This is not an overabundance of political correctness. The OP was self-conscious of identifying the folks as Asian -- he knew it was wrong -- that's why he felt the need to justify his identifying them as Asian with his "BTW, I only..." comment.

But if you need to hate someone to make you feel better about yourself, enjoy. (And I won't even comment on your blasphemy /images/graemlins/smirk.gif)

imitation
04-29-2005, 11:50 PM
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BTW, I only mention that they are Asian because I can hardly understand them except for the "Lousy dealer", "Bad dealer", etc. comments.

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HUH??

You sound like a wanker.

[/ QUOTE ]

Are you offended by this?

I'm Asian and I'm not.

I'm glad those bastards (and the other dude) got what was coming to them.

[/ QUOTE ]

I am not Asian, but I also don't think it was necessary to single them out as Asian (making the wanker comment understandable). If he said that the offensive players kept calling him a lousy dealer with a thick accent that he could hardly understand, that would be sufficient. Identifying them as Asian adds absolutely nothing to the story. Arseholes come in all shapes and sizes.

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good lord do i hate you.

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I was avoiding any futher posting since the thread has already been hijacked on this perpheral point but your post made me laugh out loud. For the record -- All of those ejected were idiots deserving ejection regardless of their race, color or species. Now back to the other crap:

What is your problem??? This is not an overabundance of political correctness. The OP was self-conscious of identifying the folks as Asian -- he knew it was wrong -- that's why he felt the need to justify his identifying them as Asian with his "BTW, I only..." comment.

But if you need to hate someone to make you feel better about yourself, enjoy. (And I won't even comment on your blasphemy /images/graemlins/smirk.gif)

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Exactly, he makes a point of saying I don't need to say this and i'm not saying it for any real reason, but i'll say it anyway because subconsciously I want you to hate asian people like me, because Japanese killed my grandpa in WW2. This thought pattern can be succicently shortened to this thread starter is a wanker.

JKDStudent
04-30-2005, 12:46 AM
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I am not Asian, but I also don't think it was necessary to single them out as Asian (making the wanker comment understandable). If he said that the offensive players kept calling him a lousy dealer with a thick accent that he could hardly understand, that would be sufficient. Identifying them as Asian adds absolutely nothing to the story. Arseholes come in all shapes and sizes.

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Exactly, he makes a point of saying I don't need to say this and i'm not saying it for any real reason, but i'll say it anyway because subconsciously I want you to hate asian people like me, because Japanese killed my grandpa in WW2. This thought pattern can be succicently shortened to this thread starter is a wanker.

[/ QUOTE ] (I particularly like this one, given the bouncy-breasted Asian avatar. I mean, so long as we're talking about what's offensive and not...)

Ni men bu shi dong xi. Qu ni men de.

MonkeeMan
04-30-2005, 01:08 AM
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I look over to see one of the Blackjack dealers from a neighboring casino standing up and hurling racial slurs at a Hispanic girl at the table.

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Very insensitive of you to bring up this persons gender. GMAFB.

HitHard69
04-30-2005, 04:38 AM
Ok, he was Asian...so what? The guy told it like it was, you all don't need to jump on his back for it. Some people are so concerned with being politically correct they have to jump all over someone who mentions a race. The guy obviously had a rough shift and he came here to post what happened. No need to beat him up over it.

juanez
04-30-2005, 05:29 AM
Like beer? If so, I'll buy you when when you come out. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

juanez
04-30-2005, 05:33 AM
BTW good story Jaunez. I need to come up to the "Hill" soon and pay you a visit. You're at the Gilpin?

Yeah, I'm there and live close by. See ya there man!

juanez
04-30-2005, 06:35 AM
Holy crap. What a joke this is.

These two idiots were Asian, so what? I mentioned it to accurately describe the situation - I could barely understand them, which only made the situation worse.

If I just wrote "There were these two jerks at my table who I could barely understand...." it would not have painted a sufficiently accurate picture. There would have been replies like "Why couldn't you understand them?", "Were they drunk and slurring?", "Did they not speak English?", etc., etc. I guess then I would have had to have replied with a 1000 word PC description of these people without actually describing them accurately. Or I could do what I did and describe them with 6 words right here: Asians who I could barely understand.

We have MANY Asians playing in Black Hawk and most are cool as hell. Some are also jackasses. Many Irish-Americans, like myself, are cool as hell. Some are also Jackasses. There are jackasses from all over the world, but I think most folks are decent. I can see it now - "you're Irish but have a username of "juanez"....this must be racially motivated...

And I mentioned that the Hispanic girl was Hispanic because the jerkoff who was screaming at her was screaming rather derogatory racial slurs at her at the top of his lungs - it was a vital part of the description of the situation.

I think it's hilarious that not one of the replies here mentions this assshole and his bigoted slurs, but I get called a "wanker", etc.

I get a kick out of what some of you guys ASS-U-ME I think about people. Every mention or race, color, creed, etc. is ASS-U-MEd to be a racial slur these days. How about not judging me and taking a good at yourself for judging me inaccurately?

BTW, my hat goes off to the poster "imitation". His "big busted Asian woman bouncing her tits around" avatar was enlightening as to his respect for Asian women. And his comment that "subconsciously I [meaning juanez] want you to hate asian people like me, because Japanese killed my grandpa in WW2" was interesting.

You ever meet my garandpa? Or me for that matter? My grandpa died 6 years ago you douche bag. And he was wounded and disfigured by the Germans in France in WWII while in the English army, not killed by the Japanese. My old man now has his medals, which I didn't even know my grandpa earned until he passed away. Grow the f*ck up man.

juanez
04-30-2005, 06:53 AM
Most poker managers seem reluctant to eject the obnoxious, thinking that they are losing a customer. They don't see that allowing the creep to stay costs them a lot more than ONE customer, as the rest of the players decide that playing in this room with these idiots is not an enjoyable experience.

The manager of this room was a dealer in CO and CA for several years himself and is cool as hell, so the "No Dealer Abuse" rule is STRICTLY enforced.

Frankly, this deal with the idiot throwing a button at me and getting ejected immediately by the floor person was encouraging in that it showed that other floor persons will actually stand behind us, not just the manager of the room.

tubalkain
04-30-2005, 08:40 AM
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I am not Asian, but I also don't think it was necessary to single them out as Asian (making the wanker comment understandable). If he said that the offensive players kept calling him a lousy dealer with a thick accent that he could hardly understand, that would be sufficient. Identifying them as Asian adds absolutely nothing to the story. Arseholes come in all shapes and sizes.

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Exactly, he makes a point of saying I don't need to say this and i'm not saying it for any real reason, but i'll say it anyway because subconsciously I want you to hate asian people like me, because Japanese killed my grandpa in WW2. This thought pattern can be succicently shortened to this thread starter is a wanker.

[/ QUOTE ] (I particularly like this one, given the bouncy-breasted Asian avatar. I mean, so long as we're talking about what's offensive and not...)

Ni men bu shi dong xi. Qu ni men de.

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None of the translators I can find can even identify this quote, let alone translate it. What the hell does it mean?

MMMMMM
04-30-2005, 09:40 AM
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Identifying them as Asian adds absolutely nothing to the story.

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Wrong, it adds detail. Are you advocating a strictly minimalist style of writing or reporting?

bernie
04-30-2005, 11:59 AM
Just nitpicking /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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"There were these two jerks at my table who I could barely understand...." it would not have painted a sufficiently accurate picture

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There were these 2 jerks with thick accents at my table...

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We have MANY Asians playing in Black Hawk and most are cool as hell.

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This isn't just unique to Black Hawk. Try going to any casino and not seeing 'many' asians. At least up here it's like that.

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And I mentioned that the Hispanic girl was Hispanic because the jerkoff who was screaming at her was screaming rather derogatory racial slurs at her at the top of his lungs - it was a vital part of the description of the situation.

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I don't think you need to point out what race she is. Is there a race that is immune to racial slurs? The term racial slur itself is enough.

Personally, I don't care as I see your point as it does give a little better description overall. Does it really help in making the point in the post? Not really. You only have to put enough in there to get the gist of the situation without being specific to any race. Not really worth going to war over in a thread though. It will come up again eventually by someone over someone else singling out some race.

I think these idiots deserved to get tossed. Dealing is a thankless job. You get to piss off 8 players every hand. And the 1 guy you do make happy will hate you the next hand. I don't envy it. I think it's great that the floor guys back you.(I echo your thoughts in a previous response in this thread) I've seen some that let things go a little too far before stepping in or just plain catering to a regular at the dealers expense. Which is a bunch of crap.

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toots
04-30-2005, 01:17 PM
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Ni men bu shi dong xi. Qu ni men de.

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None of the translators I can find can even identify this quote, let alone translate it. What the hell does it mean?

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Mandarin.

First sentence (roughly) means "you guys don't get it." Rusty enough that I don't know the second sentence.

JKDStudent
04-30-2005, 01:21 PM
Well, you got the Mandarin part right. But that's about it. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Trainwreck
04-30-2005, 01:31 PM
Yup!

I hate aholes NOT being dealt with in poker rooms, it's been a while since I have seen someone get that out of line though, good stories!

I only recall one guy during a tourney and still having chips being removed, when he threw cards at a dealer and said the dealer called him a MOFO. He was then argumentative with other players, and a couple of them not even at his table said they'd like to kick his arse.

I saw the dealer months later and asked him about it, he said that guy was normally fine, but a complete jackass when he drinks... and banned from many poker rooms because of it.

&gt;TW&lt;

Trainwreck
04-30-2005, 01:40 PM
LOL! I agree, this PC BS is OOFH.

Oh yeah, I am old school, I still use oriental, am I a bad mofo for just that?

Laughable like so many other things, like these Arab-Americans who are suing Denny's for $28 mill, lawyer came up with the #, DUH!
I saw 2 interviewed, definitely not their country of origin, but the BALLS to sue for that much &amp; showing your face on TV is just asking for future troubles.

28 Million for calling them Bin Ladens and refusing service? @Denny's! LOL!

Damn! I want 1 billion for all the FKN BS I have lived through then!

&gt;TW&lt;

7ontheline
04-30-2005, 02:00 PM
I can't believe people are offended by the "Asian" designation in this thread. I'm Chinese, and usually pretty sensitive to unintended racism, and it still boggles my mind. When did "Asian" become an insult? He didn't say slanty-eyed yellow MFers did he?

brian_frets
04-30-2005, 03:11 PM
Jesus Christ. Since when did indicating someone's ethnicity mean that you're sending subliminal messages about how your grandfather died? What a load of [censored].

onegymrat
04-30-2005, 04:34 PM
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Not to mention that those Hispanic chicks are always muttering stuff under their breath...


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Yeah, aren't they hot?!!

Jules22
04-30-2005, 04:44 PM
the poster who freaked out is just being a prick and looking to stir up trouble. nobody else who read the thread thought the op showed any racism, if they were asian and didnt speak english, what are you supposed to call them, "english challenged"? what a jerk.

bdk3clash
04-30-2005, 05:12 PM
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Oh yeah, I am old school, I still use oriental, am I a bad mofo for just that?

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Yes.

imitation
04-30-2005, 10:57 PM
Ok I was just [censored] stirring, ngo m sic gong putoungwa. Start studying it on may 8th in Guangzhou /images/graemlins/wink.gif

CORed
05-01-2005, 12:10 AM
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You get to piss off 8 players every hand.

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Actually, he gets to piss of 9 players every hand, because the Gilpin seats ten to a table for holdem.

Sunshine
05-01-2005, 12:23 AM
Agree with Al, being from TX, where casino card rooms are not legal and home games are abundant, I spend alot to get to casinos. The reason I do that is for the atmosphere. Next to inconsistencies in how the rules are applied, players who are allowed to be a$$holes make the cost of getting to a casino not worth it some times.

bernie
05-01-2005, 12:34 AM
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Actually, he gets to piss of 9 players every hand, because the Gilpin seats ten to a table for holdem.

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Yeah. But isn't one usually up walking, drunk or passed out?
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MicroBob
05-01-2005, 02:14 PM
My girlfriend is hispanic. She looks like she is hispanic.
Specifically she is from Peru. She looks like she is from Peru.

I am a generic-enough looking american white guy.

My parents are both fairly generic-looking white people although my Mom is blonde and EXTREMELY pale skinned. My Dad has a slightly darker skin-tone.

My GF's family all look hispanic btw. Her skin-tone is a little bit lighter than her brother or her mom.

She also has a little bit of an accent but not an excessively strong one.
Her brother's accent is stronger. Her mom speaks practically no english so what she does say is obviously very accented.

I don't really speak any spanish. My english is typical mid-west/northern accent.
It sticks out a bit in the south (I live in Memphis) where many people quickly pick up on the fact that I am obviously not originally from the area.

I visited my Dad in Destin, Florida where many of his friends have southern accents (from Alabama or Georgia mostly). They all commented that we talked the same.
Mostly this just meant that we both had mid-west accents.


None of the above statements make me a racist.

Have a nice day.


Juanez - interesting stories.
Losing these types of customers is a no-brainer. Tolerating them is just plain silly. More casinos should be more diligent about tossing drunken morons.


Surprised to learn that you are NOT hispanic.
There is a very popular latin singer named Juanes who I like to make fun of.

AncientPC
05-01-2005, 02:22 PM
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I can't believe people are offended by the "Asian" designation in this thread. I'm Chinese [omitted] and it still boggles my mind. When did "Asian" become an insult? He didn't say slanty-eyed yellow MFers did he?

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bisonbison
05-01-2005, 02:38 PM
He didn't say slanty-eyed yellow MFers did he?

No, but I did. At least eight times today.

Lawrence Ng
05-01-2005, 11:35 PM
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No, but I did. At least eight times today.


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Sucky Sucky for ten dolla?

Lawrence

Lawrence Ng
05-01-2005, 11:37 PM
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HUH??

You sound like a wanker.


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Dieu, lai gong mut lun ye ah?

How does singling them out as Asians make him a wanker? I'm an Asian, look Asian, so that's how I'm referred to.

Bleh.

Lawrence