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aba20
04-28-2005, 04:50 PM
Table is very loose and aggressive, many hands are
4-bet preflop multiway. My question is how do you like my turn raise when I think that I am probably behind to some weird two pair. My logic was that the pot was huge and I wanted to protect my hand and force everyone else to pay two bets cold. Let me know what you think.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. MP2 posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 (poster) checks, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (17.22 SB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (14.61 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

River: (26.61 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 29.61 BB

Chris Dow
04-28-2005, 04:55 PM
Your turn logic is correct, when that chance to make it 2 cold to everyone else arises, you should take it. You should be somewhat wary when they all do call anyway though so I like your line after the raise as well.

meep_42
04-28-2005, 05:01 PM
I particularly like when you 3-bet yourself pre-flop.

-d

vegasvegas
04-28-2005, 05:02 PM
What happened pre-flop ? Hero raises and the 3-bets ?

I like the turn raise, even though I'd be a little concerned about CO betting into you on the turn after you 3-bet the flop. T9s to beat you on the river ?

mannika
04-28-2005, 05:03 PM
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I particularly like when you 3-bet yourself pre-flop.

-d

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With rockets you have to cap yourself after you 3-bet yourself. When will they ever learn?

mannika
04-28-2005, 05:03 PM
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What happened pre-flop ? Hero raises and the 3-bets ?

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I think MP3 3-bet all-in.

aba20
04-28-2005, 05:05 PM
ya guy went allin for 1.86 more and I could then raise two ontop of that

sammy_g
04-28-2005, 05:46 PM
I play it the same. You actually might have odds to go for a set after you're 3bet on the turn, and you have hidden outs if CO only has 2 pair. You of course have to call the river because you have aces and the pot is freakin giant.

Sorry you lost the hand. If it's any consolation, you made loads of Sklansky bucks.