Is this Racism?

[Josh W]

I'm one of those people who think that the term "racism" gets thrown around a lot more than it should. Of course, I am in no way saying that there isn't too much racism these days.

But I dunno about the following situation(s)...do you guys think it is racist or not?

First case: You are single, but want to get married. You will only consider people who are the same race as you.

Second case: You are single, but want to get married. You will consider all races except for one specific race.

Racist or not?

[bernie]

Um...

yeah, it is.

b

[JaBlue]

both are racist and you are racist too.

[Jack of Arcades]

Depends on your reasonings, not just your actions.

[Jman28]

I think both are racist.

However the second case is more racist than the first.

-Jman28

[istewart]

Nobody wants to marry an Indian!

[Tron]

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both are racist and you are racist too.

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This is obvious.



<font color="white">I'm kidding... Accusations of racism are pretty serious, so I'm throwing down this disclaimer!!!</font>

[Tron]

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Nobody wants to marry an Indian!

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Dot or feather?

[Ulysses]

I think the better question is, is it wrong? Of course not. Who cares what you call it.

[istewart]

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I think the better question is, is it wrong? Of course not. Who cares what you call it.

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NH.

[MasterShakes]

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I think the better question is, is it wrong? Of course not. Who cares what you call it.

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Bingo.

[youtalkfunny]

Every time I see those documentaries about the red ants and the black ants, fighting to the death, tearing each other's heads off, FOR NO REASON...

...I think that racism is instinct, hard-wired into our brains, and must be overcome by logic.

[Josh W]

el D-

I'm going to try to choose my words carefully.

Are you saying:

a.) My examples do not exhibit racism?

or

b.) Racism, at least in some instances, is not wrong.

I think that one of these (or both) have to be true given your statement.

[Josh W]

First, lemme toss out a disclaimer. These do not pertain to me in any way. I'm open to all races.

Now, if the REASON why you only want to date people in your race is because of familial issues, does it still make you racist? You don't think that other races are worse or undeserving or anything. But, say you are Italian, and your whole family only speaks Italian, and as such, you want to marry an Italian, just to keep your family happy...does this make you racist?

I'm not Italian.
I've got nothing against Italians, it's just a nation I thought of that has their own language (if I said French, then somebody could say "marry a Canadian, eh!").
Again, this does not refer to me, and only when I racked my brain could I even come up with a single acquaintance who this pertains to.

Nuff disclaimers. Those who say I'm racist have a tremendous sense of humor. It's so good they should never unleash it. They should save it. Just for themselves.

Josh

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Nobody wants to marry an Indian!

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Dot or feather?

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She said all you need to know is I'm not a ho
And to get with me you better be Chief Lots-a-dough

[BusterStacks]

Say I only like to wear red clothes. I see a blue shirt that looks like a nice shirt, but really I prefer red shirts so I don't buy the blue one.

Am I going to hell?

[Bob Moss]

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I'm one of those people who think that the term "racism" gets thrown around a lot more than it should. Of course, I am in no way saying that there isn't too much racism these days.

But I dunno about the following situation(s)...do you guys think it is racist or not?

First case: You are single, but want to get married. You will only consider people who are the same race as you.

Second case: You are single, but want to get married. You will consider all races except for one specific race.

Racist or not?

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from dictionary.reference.com: "Discrimination or prejudice based on race."

So yeah, maybe it's racist, but who [censored] cares.

Bob

[Tron]

El Diablo makes a good point. But for what it's worth, I'd hardly call you a racist. I figure for someone to be racist, they need to believe one race is superior to another.

So unless someone refuses to marry outside of their race because they believe they are superior, then it's really just a matter of (non-racist) personal preference.

[KaneKungFu123]

who gives a [censored].

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I'm one of those people who think that the term "racism" gets thrown around a lot more than it should. Of course, I am in no way saying that there isn't too much racism these days.

But I dunno about the following situation(s)...do you guys think it is racist or not?

First case: You are single, but want to get married. You will only consider people who are the same race as you.

Second case: You are single, but want to get married. You will consider all races except for one specific race.

Racist or not?

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[KaneKungFu123]

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Nobody wants to marry an Indian!

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you are such an [censored]. and not even a funny [censored]. just a stupid [censored].

[KaneKungFu123]

you're not racist, just stupid.

okay?

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I'm one of those people who think that the term "racism" gets thrown around a lot more than it should. Of course, I am in no way saying that there isn't too much racism these days.

But I dunno about the following situation(s)...do you guys think it is racist or not?

First case: You are single, but want to get married. You will only consider people who are the same race as you.

Second case: You are single, but want to get married. You will consider all races except for one specific race.

Racist or not?

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[bernie]

In turning it around could it be that what you are attracted to is actually your personal fetish?

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[BusterStacks]

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In turning it around could it be that what you are attracted to is actually your personal fetish?

b

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OMG MY HEAD ASPLODE!!!1!one

[SGS]

I think both of these cases would largely be dependant on the reasons you are choosing to exclude all races or include all races except for one. I would have to say I would consider the 2nd case more racist than the first and likely call that racism. The first case seems to me to be more like ethnocentrism than racism.

SGS

[Edge34]

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Nobody wants to marry an Indian!

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you are such an [censored]. and not even a funny [censored]. just a stupid [censored].

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Somebody needs to do a quick Ebay search for...

"Sense of humor" and/or "sarcasm detectors"

[Ulysses]

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el D-

I'm going to try to choose my words carefully.

Are you saying:

a.) My examples do not exhibit racism?

or

b.) Racism, at least in some instances, is not wrong.

I think that one of these (or both) have to be true given your statement.

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I believe that comes down to a matter of semantics regarding how exactly you define racism.

Your reason also plays a part. If you aren't going to marry someone because that race isn't attractive to you, that's one thing. If you aren't going to marry someone because you think people of that race are all thieves, that's a different matter.

[girgy44]

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Nobody wants to marry an Indian!

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Dot or feather?

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POTD

[bernie]

I agree with Diablo's assessment.

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But, say you are Italian, and your whole family only speaks Italian, and as such, you want to marry an Italian, just to keep your family happy

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Marrying someone to keep your family happy is spineless. Imo, one wouldn't be ready to get married at that point. It's the wrong reason.

b

[Lawrence Ng]

Love is a splendor thing ain't it Josh.

I wouuld say no to both because I define racism as hate choosing marriage with/without a particular race does not define hate.

Lawrence

[Rotating Rabbit]

I'm the first case.

Just prefernce for attractiveness nothing more, I have friends all over.

[Broken Glass Can]

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First case: You are single, but want to get married. You will only consider people who are the same race as you.

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Revised First case: You are single, but want to get married. You will only consider people who are the opposite sex as you.

Does this make you homophobic?




I am sure there are plenty of you our there that think it does. This shows that you don't understand the issue.

[jakethebake]

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I think the better question is, is it wrong? Of course not. Who cares what you call it.

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As usual El D is right.

[jba]

out of curiousity...

Third case: Your son/daughter is single, but wants to get married. You only approve of people who are the same race as you.

Fourth case: Your son/daughter is single, but wants to get married. You approve of all races except for one specific race.

Racist or not?

[Lazymeatball]

Althought I believe neither case is racist, I believe the first case to be more racist then the second. This is because being racist implies that you believe that your race is superior to all otherss, which would be a pretty good motive behind case number one, but doesn't apply to case number two.

[JohnnyHumongous]

One more question: let's say you find out your white daughter is getting reamed out on a weekly basis by 3 black guys as part of her blossoming porn career.

a) Is this worse than if you found out it's 3 white guys or 3 asian guys?

b) Are you happy she has not succumbed to the 3-headed monster that is racism?

[mostsmooth]

is it racism if you exclude all ugly people from your search? stupid people? tall people? short people?

[Pocket Trips]

Having a personal preference does not constitute racism unless you exclude people of a certain race specifically because they are of that race. For example, I do not generally find many black women attractive. It is not because they are black, it is just because, with a few exceptions, I generally am not attracted to people with dark hair and brown eyes which the majority of black women have.

That being said, the most beautiful girl I have ever dated was black. She was drop-dead gorgeous with the body of a super model and these amazing green eyes. If I just dismissed all black girls I would never have even had a chance with easily the best looking girl I have ever dated.

Having A personal preference does not make you a racist.

[Sephus]

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is it racism if you exclude all ugly people from your search? stupid people? tall people? short people?

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no. damn im good.

[M2d]

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Every time I see those documentaries about the red ants and the black ants, fighting to the death, tearing each other's heads off, FOR NO REASON...

...I think that racism is instinct, hard-wired into our brains, and must be overcome by logic.

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ummmm. no.

[RacersEdge]

See, to me racist in the pure sense means taking into account race when making a decision. So almost everyone is racist by that.

Most people would say that racism is hating another race, just based on race. So I don't think if I say I will only marry white women, that it means I hate all other races.

[jakethebake]

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First case: You are single, but want to get married. You will only consider people who are the same race as you.

Second case: You are single, but want to get married. You will consider all races except for one specific race.

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A clear next step is genocide.

[El Barto]

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Every time I see those documentaries about the red ants and the black ants, fighting to the death, tearing each other's heads off, FOR NO REASON...

...I think that racism is instinct, hard-wired into our brains, and must be overcome by logic.

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ummmm. no.

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You dismiss hard-wiring too easily. Maybe the hard wiring came from natural selection:

1) People attracted to human asses reproduced more than those attracted to monkey asses, hence we are hard-wired to prefer the human form.

2) People attracted to the opposite sex reproduced more than those attracted to the same sex, hence most people are hard-wired to prefer the opposite sex.

3) People who thought their baby was cute had more children survive to adulthood, hence we are hard-wired to think our babies are cute.

It is not unreasonable to think we also developed a hard-wiring to prefer people who look similar to ourselves (including the issue of skin color).

[andyfox]

In the sense that you're treating people negatively only because of their race, then both cases qualify as racist attitudes. Change your hypothetical to "you are short of help at work and you need another employee."

[RacersEdge]

Put it this way - if you are only attracted to women, does that make you sexist?

[Josh W]

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out of curiousity...

Third case: Your son/daughter is single, but wants to get married. You only approve of people who are the same race as you.

Fourth case: Your son/daughter is single, but wants to get married. You approve of all races except for one specific race.

Racist or not?

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Interesting questions. I think that these leans more towards racist thinking, simply because 'attraction' has been taken out of the question.

[drewjustdrew]

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Althought I believe neither case is racist, I believe the first case to be more racist then the second.

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???

[jakethebake]

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Althought I believe neither case is racist, I believe the first case to be more racist then the second.

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Although I belive neither of these women to be pregnant, I belive this woman to be more pregnant that that one.

[Duke]

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Nobody wants to marry an Indian!

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Dot or feather?

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Damn hypocrites. Worship cows, slaughter buffalo.

~D

[Duke]

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One more question: let's say you find out your white daughter is getting reamed out on a weekly basis by 3 black guys as part of her blossoming porn career.

a) Is this worse than if you found out it's 3 white guys or 3 asian guys?

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At least with the 3 asian guys there's a nonzero chance that her hymen is intact.

~D

[jedi]

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If you aren't going to marry someone because that race isn't attractive to you, that's one thing. If you aren't going to marry someone because you think people of that race are all thieves, that's a different matter.

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If you're not going to *consider* people of one race just because you think they're not attractive, I think that is racist. Why don't you just look at people as individuals and if you don't find them attractive, you don't find them attractive. You might find one person of that race that you're extremely attracted to, and wouldn't have otherwise if you had just dismissed him or her outright just because of skin color.

[Lawrence Ng]

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At least with the 3 asian guys there's a nonzero chance that her hymen is intact.

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Ouch...

Lawrence

[Girchuck]

You cannot legally marry people of the same sex as you.

[OtisTheMarsupial]

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do you guys think it is racist or not?

First case: You are single, but want to get married. You will only consider people who are the same race as you.

Second case: You are single, but want to get married. You will consider all races except for one specific race.

Racist or not?

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Yes, by definition, both are racist. (see def. of racism in earlier posts or dictionary.com)

It's not hard-core racism and it really does't matter too much.

But race probably shouldn't be a top priority when finding a mate.

Your long-term marriage happiness will likely have very little to do with what race your partner is.

It has a lot more to do with things like:
- sexual compatibility
- same/similar philosophy/religion
- similar senses of humor (life will suck if she doesn't get your jokes)
- similar goals (children, travel, world cup)
- compatible habits (you make money, she spends money; you cook, she eats...)

-Otis