Best Baseball Team for <$50M

[Vince Young]

From this post by tbach24 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=exchange&amp;Number=2260903&amp;Fo rum=,All_Forums,&amp;Words=&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Main =2250884&amp;Search=true&amp;where=&amp;Name=24084&amp;daterange=&amp; newerval=&amp;newertype=&amp;olderval=&amp;oldertype=&amp;bodyprev =#Post2260903)

Make a team of 9 players, 1 at every position (you can have 3 outfielders at any position in the outfield) for under $50,000,000.

Here's mine:

1B - Derrek Lee - $7,666,667
2B - Brian Roberts - $390,000
3B - Hank Blalock - $850,000
SS - Jimmy Rollins - $3,850,000
OF - Jim Edmonds - $10,333,333
OF - Ichiro Suzuki - $12,529,000
OF - Vladimir Guerrero - $12,500,000
C - Joe Mauer - $325,000
P - Rich Harden - $750,000

Total - $49,194,000

[naphinfitos]

WTF? Ortiz isn't on this team........

[tbach24]

VMart is at like 675, no? He's better.

Anyways, you could do better with this money:
OF - Jim Edmonds - $10,333,333
OF - Ichiro Suzuki - $12,529,000
OF - Vladimir Guerrero - $12,500,000
than you did.

Does anyone have a link to the MLB.com or ESPN.com thing with all the things?

[kerssens]

You're missing a few players.

[Eurotrash]

I like this team... possible consideration for 2B to save you a couple ten thousand dollars:

Chase Utley

he's the next big thing.

[bugstud]

once I have full salary info I'll do a full 25 roster for under 50 mil.

[tbach24]

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You're missing a few players.

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Yeah, I was referring to a 25 man roster, but it's cool either way. This may make it easier.

[pryor15]

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once I have full salary info I'll do a full 25 roster for under 50 mil.

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much more challenging.

edit: USA Today has a database here (http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/default.aspx)

[Vince Young]

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VMart is at like 675, no? He's better.

Anyways, you could do better with this money:
OF - Jim Edmonds - $10,333,333
OF - Ichiro Suzuki - $12,529,000
OF - Vladimir Guerrero - $12,500,000
than you did.

Does anyone have a link to the MLB.com or ESPN.com thing with all the things?

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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3530368

[tbach24]

The all sub-1 million team:
C- Victor Martinez (700,000)
C- Joe Mauer (325,000)
1B- Travis Hafner (377,400)
2B- Brian Roberts (390,000)
3B- Hank Blalock (800,000)
SS- Clint Barmes (317,000)
OF- Miguel Cabrera (370,000)
OF- Lew Ford (385,000)
OF- Carl Crawford (625,000)
OF- Jeremy Reed (316,000)
IF- Kevin Youklis (323,125)
IF- Chase Utley (345,000)
IF- Justin Morneau (345,000)
SP- Rich Harden (750,000)
SP- Jeremy Bonderman (400,000)
SP- Dontrelle Willis (378,500)
SP- John Patterson (322,500)
SP- Jake Peavy (750,000)
RP- Fransisco Rodriguez (440,000)
RP- Brad Lidge (500,000)
RP- Kiki Calero (330,000)
RP- Juan Rincon (440,000)
RP- Scott Kazmir (316,000)
RP- Bobby Madritsch (335,000)
RP- Dan Haren (323,500)

Total- 10,904,025

This is much better than most major league teams too

[Dead]

And probably none of the hitters will end up hitting over 300, and probably none of the pitchers will have an ERA below 3.

[tbach24]

Wanna make a bet that one of my SP will?

[pryor15]

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Wanna make a bet that one of my SP will?

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or lidge. you'd make a lot on that bet.

[Jack of Arcades]

Travis Hafner, 2004: .311
Hank Blalock, 2003: .300
Miguel Cabrera, 2004: .296
Carl Crawford, 2004: .296

[bugstud]

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And probably none of the hitters will end up hitting over 300, and probably none of the pitchers will have an ERA below 3.

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my best estimate is 2 .300 hitters

[Jack of Arcades]

Jake Peavy, 2004: 2.27
Brad Lidge, 2004: 1.90
Francisco Cordero, 2002: 1.79
Francisco Cordero, 2003: 2.94
Francisco Cordero, 2004: 2.13

[tbach24]

Fransisco Rodriguez /images/graemlins/grin.gif

The #'s are right I think tho

[Jack of Arcades]

Oh, if you mean F-Rod, then the guy has a career 2.36 ERA in 170 IP.

[tbach24]

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Oh, if you mean F-Rod, then the guy has a career 2.36 ERA in 170 IP.

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Does F-Rod = K-Rod? That's my guy? Did I put Cordero in my original post? He has a big contract IIRC

[Dead]

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Oh, if you mean F-Rod, then the guy has a career 2.36 ERA in 170 IP.

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You are a fool.

Felix Rodriguez= F-Rod

Frankie Rodriguez = K-Rod

[Jack of Arcades]

Yeah, K-Rod. You put Cordero in the original post.

[tbach24]

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Yeah, K-Rod. You put Cordero in the original post.

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Yeah, I fixed it. Thanks for telling me, makes my BP much better

[James282]

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From this post by tbach24 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=exchange&amp;Number=2260903&amp;Fo rum=,All_Forums,&amp;Words=&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Main =2250884&amp;Search=true&amp;where=&amp;Name=24084&amp;daterange=&amp; newerval=&amp;newertype=&amp;olderval=&amp;oldertype=&amp;bodyprev =#Post2260903)

Make a team of 9 players, 1 at every position (you can have 3 outfielders at any position in the outfield) for under $50,000,000.

Here's mine:

1B - Derrek Lee - $7,666,667
2B - Brian Roberts - $390,000
3B - Hank Blalock - $850,000
SS - Jimmy Rollins - $3,850,000
OF - Jim Edmonds - $10,333,333
OF - Ichiro Suzuki - $12,529,000
OF - Vladimir Guerrero - $12,500,000
C - Joe Mauer - $325,000
P - Rich Harden - $750,000

Total - $49,194,000

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Ichiro is a horrible pick for the outfield.
-James

EDIT: So is Edmonds.

[Jack of Arcades]

Edmonds has been consistently one of the best players in the league the last 5 years.

[Dead]

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Oh, if you mean F-Rod, then the guy has a career 2.36 ERA in 170 IP.

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You are a fool.

Felix Rodriguez= F-Rod

Frankie Rodriguez = K-Rod

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[Eurotrash]

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EDIT: So is Edmonds.


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um, reasoning? dude is straight filthy.

[James282]

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EDIT: So is Edmonds.


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um, reasoning? dude is straight filthy.

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Because you can get Bobby Abreu for just a little bit more and he is better.
-James

EDIT: Upon further review, Edmonds looks like a pretty good pick. But Ichiro is still an atrocious one.

[Jack of Arcades]

OK, let's ignore the post where I pointed out you were completely wrong and jump all over me confusing the nicknames Felix Rodriguez and Francisco Rodriguez, because really, they are so completely different.

[Jack of Arcades]

Except for the fact that Edmonds is a great CF and Abreu is a great corner OF.

[Dead]

Only one of those guys hit over 300 last year. Blalock dropped 20 points from 03 to 04.

[James282]

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Except for the fact that Edmonds is a great CF and Abreu is a great corner OF.

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Yeah you are right. I also had Edmonds OPS numbers confused with somebody else's. You do agree that Ichiro is a terrible pick though I hope. I'd ditch Derek Lee and put Pujols there in a heart beat, and take a 5m cut from Ichiro to someone who is probably better anyway.
-James

[Jack of Arcades]

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Only one of those guys hit over 300 last year.

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And only one of them was needed to show your statement completely wrong.

[bugstud]

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Only one of those guys hit over 300 last year.

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And only one of them was needed to show your statement completely wrong.

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YAHTZEE

[pryor15]

focusing more on a team that could play actual games and without trying to intentionally make it an all-rookie team, here's what i've got (numbers from usa today, i don't think anyone's too far out of position.

$$ in millions, criticize away...

c) v. martinez (.3721)
c) j. estrada (.46)
1b) a. pujols (11.00)
2b) m. loretta (2.75)
3b) h. blalock (.85)
ss) b. crosby (.35)
cf) c. patterson (2.8)
rf) n. swisher (.3165)
lf) a. dunn (4.6)
of) w. mo pena (.44)
of) c. crawford (.37)
mi) c. izturis (2.15)
ut) m. cuddyer (.3475)
ci/of) b. wilkerson (3.05)
sp) j. santana (4.75)
sp) j. peavy (.75)
sp) oliver perez (.381)
sp) j. beckett (2.4)
sp) d. haren (.3235)
rp) b. arroyo (1.85)
rp) j. tavarez (2.6)
rp) r. wagner (.38)
rp) j.c. romero (1.25)
rp) h. street (.316)
rp) b. lidge (.500)
total -----&gt; 45.357M

wanted to make sure i had a defensive MI (izturis), some position flexibility, a lefty in the pen (romero), and a guy who could spot start and/or mop up (arroyo). plus, wanted a team that could actually win some games. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Dead]

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Only one of those guys hit over 300 last year.

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And only one of them was needed to show your statement completely wrong.

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There you go, being foolish again.

Last year is irrelevant.

I stated that I don't think any of them will hit over 300 THIS year.

[Jack of Arcades]

No, you stated:

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And probably none of the hitters will end up hitting over 300, and probably none of the pitchers will have an ERA below 3.

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Which has already been accomplished.

[DangerGoodson]

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From this post by tbach24 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=exchange&amp;Number=2260903&amp;Fo rum=,All_Forums,&amp;Words=&amp;Searchpage=0&amp;Limit=25&amp;Main =2250884&amp;Search=true&amp;where=&amp;Name=24084&amp;daterange=&amp; newerval=&amp;newertype=&amp;olderval=&amp;oldertype=&amp;bodyprev =#Post2260903)

Make a team of 9 players, 1 at every position (you can have 3 outfielders at any position in the outfield) for under $50,000,000.

Here's mine:

1B - Derrek Lee - $7,666,667
2B - Brian Roberts - $390,000
3B - Hank Blalock - $850,000
SS - Jimmy Rollins - $3,850,000
OF - Jim Edmonds - $10,333,333
OF - Ichiro Suzuki - $12,529,000
OF - Vladimir Guerrero - $12,500,000
C - Joe Mauer - $325,000
P - Rich Harden - $750,000

Total - $49,194,000

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Or you could just take the MN Twins minus Brad Radke

[Dead]

I am talking about THIS SEASON. This season is not even close to over. I could tell you that Bernie hit over 300 in 2002. Does that mean he will hit 300 this year?

[Aytumious]

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And probably none of the hitters will end up hitting over 300, and probably none of the pitchers will have an ERA below 3.

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Have you ever watched baseball?

[Jack of Arcades]

The fact that he hit .333 in 2002 makes him more, not less likely that he will hit .300 this season. It's a small factor since a) it was 3 years ago, and b) he's a 35 year old centerfielder, but it's still a part of the equation.

We're talking about players who are no older than 28 and some of them actually hit .300 or close to it as soon as last year.

Let's look at the age and career average of some of the players listed.

Victor Martinez - .279 - 26
Travis Hafner - .285 - 27
Brian Roberts - .270 - 27
Hank Blalock - .277 - 24
Miguel Cabrera - .288 - 22
Lew Ford - .299 - 28
Carl Crawford - .283 - .23

Even if all of these career averages are their actual true talent levels, simple variance dictates that some of these guys will have .300 seasons! It doesn't take much for a career .288 hitter to improve to .300, especially since 1) he hit .296 last year, and 2) he's 22 years old.

[Dead]

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And probably none of the hitters will end up hitting over 300, and probably none of the pitchers will have an ERA below 3.

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Have you ever watched baseball?

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I watch at least 2 games every day.

I'm just not into the math like JOA is.

[Aytumious]

I think my "Have you ever watched baseball?" question to Dead conveys what you are trying to argue much more succinctly /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Dead]

I think that reposting sh*t is lame and self-serving.

[Aytumious]

Not to get off topic, but for someone who has as many posts as you in such a short amount of time to be making posts about posting etiquette is extraordinarily funny.

[Jack of Arcades]

We are halfway through the season!

Hitters:
Miguel Cabrera - .335
Pronk (Travis Hafner) - .318
Brian Roberts - .354
Chase Utley - .310

Pitchers:
Rich Harden - 2.15 ERA
Dontrelle Willis - 1.89 ERA

[Colonel Kataffy]

P Roger Clemens $18,000,022
C Any devilrays player $316,000
1B Any devilrays player $316,000
2B Any devilrays player $316,000
3B Any devilrays player $316,000
SS Alex Rodriguez $25,705,118
OF Any devilrays player $316,000
OF Any devilrays player $316,000
OF Any devilrays player $316,000

[MarkL444]

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P - Rich Harden - $750,000

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Bonderman is cheaper.

[contentless]

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I watch at least 2 games every day.

Math is hard!


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