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UATrewqaz
04-27-2005, 02:39 AM
15 is definitely a small sample size, but not uber small.

The early results look like I have a knack for them..

$5+$1 - 11 tournies - 4 1st, 2 2nd, 1 3rd
$10+1 - 2 tournies - 1 1st
$20+2 - 1 tourney - 2nd
$30+3 - 1 tourney - 1st

ROI% - 179.72
Finish in the money - 66.67%
Average Finish - 3.6 (I went out in 9th once with KK, guy with J/T caught a straight /images/graemlins/frown.gif)

Once again these are ultra small numbers, but look very promising?

Nottom
04-27-2005, 02:40 AM
Oh god ... save yourself the grief and just delete this now.

mike28
04-27-2005, 02:42 AM
add two 0s and get back to us.

ChoicestHops
04-27-2005, 02:46 AM
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Pepsquad
04-27-2005, 03:04 AM
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15 is definitely a small sample size, but not uber small.

The early results look like I have a knack for them..

$5+$1 - 11 tournies - 4 1st, 2 2nd, 1 3rd
$10+1 - 2 tournies - 1 1st
$20+2 - 1 tourney - 2nd
$30+3 - 1 tourney - 1st

ROI% - 179.72
Finish in the money - 66.67%
Average Finish - 3.6 (I went out in 9th once with KK, guy with J/T caught a straight /images/graemlins/frown.gif)

Once again these are ultra small numbers, but look very promising?

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UATrewqaz,

This is the nicest reply you'll receive from your post so please listen carefully. Congrats on your first 15 tournies, that ROI is awesome! But 15 tournies IS "uber small". When looking for statistical relevence, there is really no diference between 15 and ONE. You're going to find this hard to believe, but you need hundreds and hundreds of tournies before before you can begin to draw any conclusions.

Also, please accept my apologies if this is insulting but by your statistics, it looks like you may have played a few 5's and had some luck, a $10 and had some luck, etc. PLEASE STOP IMMEDIATELY and move back to the 5's! You are headed for a crash course if you continue to move up buy-in's after playing and winning only one SNG at a certain level. If this assessment is off-base and you have actually played a bazillion $5's - again, I apologize. If not, I implore you to move back down immediately.

Again, congrats on the kick-azz finishes.

icetonez
04-27-2005, 03:23 AM
Nice start. I wouldn't drop to the $5's though. Play the $10's for the same amount of rake and see how you do in 500. If bankroll is not an issue (say ~$500), you could probably just start at the $22's. I have played 250 $10's and 700 $20's and my ROIs are nearly identical.

tech
04-27-2005, 03:53 AM
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15 is definitely a small sample size, but not uber small.


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You are correct. I consider uber-small to be about 25-30.

Apathy
04-27-2005, 03:56 AM
I hope u never post again.

raptor517
04-27-2005, 04:01 AM
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I hope u never post again.

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rofl. ok, since im nice and all, ill say gratz on the 15 sngs. however, before posting results, next time play at least 2,309,158,123 sngs. holla

Eevee
04-27-2005, 04:07 AM
Double up then triple up. 179.72% ROI might be sustainable if you never played again. But hey, at least ur prophecy stats will be good.

-EV

PS. there was this one guy at a 55 who kept on saying that he had the best prophecy stats with only like 50 tourneys. I just shrugged and then I went back to 6 tabling pokemon red version.

Eevee
04-27-2005, 04:08 AM
I bet even raptor never 6 tabled pokemon red version.

+EV

raptor517
04-27-2005, 04:10 AM
oh god. back in the day, when pokemon first came out, i was the nuts. i wont a tournament and flew to washington to play a nintendo rep. bwahahahaha

Eevee
04-27-2005, 04:15 AM
Holla!

-(+)EV

Blarg
04-27-2005, 04:21 AM
LOL, I knew this thread would finally get some comedy into it.

As to the original poster, grats. You might have some real talent, who knows -- you sure did great in that little chunk. 15 tourneys is less than a day's play for some of the serious players around here, though. Some of them are playing 10 an HOUR or more. So you can see why your even asking how important a 15-game sample size is seems really bizarre, even outright laughable. The only reason you're not being chewed a new poop hole is because it's National Arboretum Day, and most SNG'ers own greenhouses.

raptor517
04-27-2005, 04:26 AM
yea, i only played for a measly 5 hours and got in 66ish tournaments today, i was too busy watering my plants. holla

Eevee
04-27-2005, 04:37 AM
I was too busy leveling up my Bulbasaur to level 87. I only train plant type pokemon.

-(+)EV

raptor517
04-27-2005, 04:40 AM
plant types eh. i only train the evolutions of eevee. jolteon was the nuts. holla

Newt_Buggs
04-27-2005, 04:49 AM
I thought this thread was a joke when I read the title. I think it was funnier once I read it and realized it was serious though.

GtrHtr
04-27-2005, 10:53 AM
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Average Finish - 3.6 (I went out in 9th once with KK, guy with J/T caught a straight /images/graemlins/frown.gif)

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Man, that was a bad beat...wait a minute! Is this a badly disguised bad beat post??? /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Patriarch
04-27-2005, 10:56 AM
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Oh god ... save yourself the grief and just delete this now.

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I second this.

BeantownCaller
04-27-2005, 06:01 PM
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Oh god ... save yourself the grief and just delete this now.

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I second this.

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It's too late, and even if it wasn't it would be a crime to waste the pokemon discussion.

I played one 30+3 SNG yesterday and emerged victorious when I called the SB's all in with K5 (he had Q3), and hit my K.

My ROI and ITM are the nuts.

Mr_J
04-27-2005, 06:06 PM
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15 is definitely a small sample size, but not uber small.

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Think again.

Seriously, delete this post before citanul gets to it. Maybe he's so sick of these type of threads he won't be bothered to respond???

"but look very promising?"

Keep playing.

Slim Pickens
04-27-2005, 06:09 PM
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Seriously, delete this post before citanul gets to it. Maybe he's so sick of these type of threads he won't be bothered to respond???

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...or hope that no one bumps it when he gets back from Vegas.

Phoenix1010
04-27-2005, 06:11 PM
Psychic types... Oh god, I'm ashamed to talk about these things ever again.

raptor517
04-27-2005, 06:13 PM
im one of the few people that had a liscensed non hacked mew /images/graemlins/wink.gif bwahahahahhaa

valenzuela
04-27-2005, 06:14 PM
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1)LOL.
2)I have more years than his sample size.
3)The best game ever its not pokemon its mario party, now thats the nuts. Nintendo 64 is the best console ever( mario party, mario golf, mario tennis, ISS , goldeneye, zelda , super smash bros. , DK64, oh my !!!!!!!!!oh my!!!!!!!!!!!!!)After my first cashout u know where my money will be directed at.

RedRum
04-27-2005, 06:30 PM
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3)The best game ever its not pokemon its mario party, now thats the nuts. Nintendo 64 is the best console ever( mario party, mario golf, mario tennis, ISS , goldeneye, zelda , super smash bros. , DK64, oh my !!!!!!!!!oh my!!!!!!!!!!!!!)After my first cashout u know where my money will be directed at.

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You would be quite incorrect. The best game ever is on the N64 but it's Pokemon Puzzle League! MMmmmmmm, bestest puzzle game evar!

Drink more,
RedRum

Phoenix1010
04-27-2005, 06:35 PM
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3)The best game ever its not pokemon its mario party, now thats the nuts. Nintendo 64 is the best console ever( mario party, mario golf, mario tennis, ISS , goldeneye, zelda , super smash bros. , DK64, oh my !!!!!!!!!oh my!!!!!!!!!!!!!)After my first cashout u know where my money will be directed at.

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You would be quite incorrect. The best game ever is on the N64 but it's Pokemon Puzzle League! MMmmmmmm, bestest puzzle game evar!

Drink more,
RedRum

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This man is correct. The only person who has ever beaten me in PPL is my girlfriend, and she's freakishly good at it. That game is awesome.

raptor517
04-27-2005, 06:40 PM
yall do realize that game is tetris attack right? and ill take any challengers in that or puyo pop for any amount of money. holla

Baked67
04-27-2005, 06:42 PM
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I hope u never post again.

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1)LOL.
2)I have more years than his sample size.
3)The best game ever its not pokemon its mario party, now thats the nuts. Nintendo 64 is the best console ever( mario party, mario golf, mario tennis, ISS , goldeneye, zelda , super smash bros. , DK64, oh my !!!!!!!!!oh my!!!!!!!!!!!!!)After my first cashout u know where my money will be directed at.

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It also boasts the greatest lineup of wrestling games on the planet. WWF Wrestlemania 2000, WWF No Mercy, WCW/NWO Revenge, WCW vs NWO World Tour, those games were the [censored]...oh and goldeneye was great as well. Used to play that for hours in the dorm rooms...

Phoenix1010
04-27-2005, 06:43 PM
I'll play Tetris Attack or PPL for infinity billion dollars.

Slim Pickens
04-27-2005, 06:43 PM
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This man is correct. The only person who has ever beaten me in PPL is my girlfriend, and she's freakishly good at it. That game is awesome.

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BS you have a girlfriend. We all saw that pic of you. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

FWIW the actual best N64 game is Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour. I'm way better at that than I am at real golf. MP is a close second.

mackthefork
04-27-2005, 06:43 PM
29 sample size snobs on the wall,
29 sample size snobs
If you knock one down and turn around
There will be 28 sample size snobs on the wall.

Mack (I see sample size snobs)

RedRum
04-27-2005, 06:45 PM
Yes, tetris attack was the first incarnation. I may be in dallas in a month or so, I'll take you up on that challenge! It's been years since I've had decent competition at that game.


Drink more,
RedRum

raptor517
04-27-2005, 06:55 PM
super smash bros was one of the best as well. the gamecube version is far and away my favorite nintendo game though, and ill take any challengers in THAT as well. holla

Meatmaw
04-27-2005, 07:07 PM
I'm partial to N64's smash bros over cube. never cared much for the extra B atk and it never felt quite the same.

150% Damage
5 stock lives
Random levels.
All handicaps at 5 with winner -2, 2nd -1, 3rd +1, last +2.

Endless entertainment. Use Link for endless 4-player bomb/boomerang annoyance. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

pooh74
04-27-2005, 07:13 PM
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29 sample size snobs on the wall,
29 sample size snobs
If you knock one down and turn around
There will be 28 sample size snobs on the wall.

Mack (I see sample size snobs)

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Are 29 sample size snobs enough to call it a group of sample size snobs?

(Id say at least 500...that'd be a convention though)

raptor517
04-27-2005, 07:14 PM
yer right, it never did feel the same, it felt infinitely better. faster, more moves, everything. it was great. holla

mackthefork
04-27-2005, 07:16 PM
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Are 29 sample size snobs enough to call it a group of sample size snobs?

(Id say at least 500...that'd be a convention though)

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I thought I just had a deja-vu then the feeling passed, btw all this is just talk, i love sample size snobs really, although my sample size is small. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Mack

pooh74
04-27-2005, 07:18 PM
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Are 29 sample size snobs enough to call it a group of sample size snobs?

(Id say at least 500...that'd be a convention though)

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I thought I just had a deja-vu then the feeling passed, btw all this is just talk, i love sample size snobs really, although my sample size is small. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Mack

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deja vu? really?

pooh74
04-27-2005, 07:20 PM
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Are 29 sample size snobs enough to call it a group of sample size snobs?

(Id say at least 500...that'd be a convention though)

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I thought I just had a deja-vu then the feeling passed, btw all this is just talk, i love sample size snobs really, although my sample size is small. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Mack

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deja vu? really?

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Deja vu? really?

<font color="white"> really? </font>

Phoenix1010
04-27-2005, 07:24 PM
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yer right, it never did feel the same, it felt infinitely better. faster, more moves, everything. it was great. holla

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Gamecube Smash Bros destroys N64 Smash Bros. My little brother has won quite a few tourneys at this game, I played a mean Captain Falcon in my day. My bro's Fox and Mario are almost unbeatable, however.

Edit: I also think it's amusing how badly hijacked this thread is.

Eevee
04-27-2005, 07:24 PM
Woooooaaaahh...OMGOMGOMG, Raptor you had a LICENSED MEW?!? You are my new hero. HOlla.

Also, alot of you are pluggin N64 but did u forget about Super Nintendo? I mean super nintendo had some of the best games ever. Mario Paint, Super Mario RPG, Mario World, Battle Toads, Ninja Turtles: Turtles in Time, NBA Jam (TE), etc.
N64 has Zelda, Smash Bro, etc. Its a tough race IMO.

I will take any challenges in Smash Bro 64 Version, which is nutsier that GC version. I also have a 60% ITM at Mario Party.

-(+)EV

raptor517
04-27-2005, 07:25 PM
ive won a few tournaments as well /images/graemlins/wink.gif ah, the art of wavedashing and L-cancelling that very few have mastered. yea, fox is one of the best characters in the game. actually, he IS the best. i did win a tournament with Peach though. that was fun. holla

valenzuela
04-27-2005, 08:25 PM
Best single-players game:
1)Mario Golf
2)Zelda
3)Goldeneye

Best Multi-players games:
1)Mario Party
2)Mario Tennis
3)Super Smash.bros

Im open to suggestions

beeyjay
04-27-2005, 09:03 PM
haha i just wanted to bump this for anybody that has had a bad run lately. this is better than playing 5+1s all in every hand

SNOWBALL138
04-27-2005, 09:08 PM
your sample size is sooooo small! I just started keeping stats, so I don't have more than 80sngs in my database. All I can say is that my ROI was huge for the first 30, and now its -22%
Soooooo, don't get too cocky with your monster ROI, and I won't get way too discouraged with my pitiful ROI.
I'm going to record another 400 or so SNGs and try to get a better idea of my real win (or loss) rate. Good luck!

raptor517
04-28-2005, 07:15 AM
the only reason you could possibly think that the n64 smash was better is because you are clearly a n00b. the cube version just crushes the 64 version in SO many ways. it is much more complex, faster, and takes more skill to be great at. holla

Winwood
04-28-2005, 08:14 AM
Best single-players game:
Goldeneye

Best multi-players game:
Goldeneye