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adios
04-26-2005, 11:35 AM
This is a fair and balanced critique IMO about Bush's proposal for personal savings accounts. It's been discussed a couple of times here. Levitt more or less implies IMO that this choice should not be offered but I could be convinced otherwise. I think the choice should be offered even if it only makes sense for the upper echelon earners (I could make an argument that it also makes sense for the lowest echelon earners as well but I digress). Isn't this a better alternative than means testing to reduce Social Security liability? Educate people on what the choice entails i.e. risks vs. rewards but give people a choice.

Reform Is Good, But
PSAs Are Not So Good

By ARTHUR LEVITT JR.
April 26, 2005; Page A14

President Bush's proposal to create private savings accounts out of traditional Social Security has inflamed political passions on both sides of the aisle. One perspective, however, has been shortchanged in debate: Although this may be the single biggest change in a generation in how Americans save for retirement, few have looked at the plan through the eyes of the investor.

One of the most remarkable developments that I have witnessed over my 40 years working in and around Wall Street -- a trend I saw accelerate during my tenure at the SEC -- was the opening up of our capital markets and the accompanying potential for wealth creation to millions of Americans. The president's Personal Savings Account plan promises to give millions more the opportunity to join this investor class. It stands to boost overall financial literacy and could encourage Americans to invest and save more.

But as any financial planner will tell you before committing to any investment option, a plan needs to be judged ultimately by its risks, its potential returns, and how the mix of the two fit the goals of an investor. As currently structured, the PSA plan avoids some of the pitfalls seen when the U.K. undertook a similar reform almost two decades ago. In particular, by limiting investment options and placing its administration in the hands of the federal government, this plan would curb the potential for excessive fees, fraud, and shady sales practices. In addition, by making the default investment for these accounts a life-cycle fund that is both diversified and adjusted to reflect an investor's changing tolerance for risk over their lifetime, the PSA plan decreases the likelihood that novice investors will make spectacularly bad choices.

Yet there are other, more fundamental, aspects of the PSA proposal's structure that merit serious concerns: The funds deposited in a PSA account are not free money. Every dollar you take out of traditional Social Security and put into a PSA must be paid back out of your Social Security benefit -- plus interest. If this sounds a lot like margin investing, it should not be a surprise since the PSA plan is modeled on that concept: A worker investing in a PSA would hope -- like a margin investor -- that assets accrued were greater than debts (money lent plus interest). If not, he would end up with a smaller Social Security benefit than if he stayed in the traditional system. To come out ahead, then, an investor would have to earn a rate of return that exceeds the interest of the loan, plus expenses.

Could one make this return within an acceptable degree of risk? According to a study by Robert Shiller of Yale, the answer is: not that often. Using adjusted stock market data to reflect the expected decreases in future market rates of return, he found that investors would do worse in the default life-cycle portfolio of the PSA accounts than in traditional Social Security 71% of the time, leaving an average worker with $2,000 less in annual benefits. Even if one opted out of the default and decided to invest entirely in stocks, this riskier strategy would not guarantee coming out ahead: Prof. Shiller predicts a worker would lose money 33% of the time.

Borrowing against one's Social Security to invest in the markets is a risky strategy that would only make sense for certain high net-worth investors who can afford to lose their entire investment. Prof. Shiller's calculations demonstrate that for the majority of workers who make less than $50,000 a year, the PSA is not a good investment not just because the odds of coming out behind are high, but also because these investors very likely may have nothing to fall back on if they lose that money.

While I do not think that his PSA plan is a good deal for investors, opponents must give President Bush credit for bringing this discussion about Social Security's future to the fore. There is a long-term financing problem, and we should make the tough decisions now so our children won't have to. We also should follow his call to encourage Americans to save and invest more, and there are steps we can take to do this that do not imperil Social Security's solvency:

• First, by switching the default option for 401(k) participation to automatic enrollment, we could boost participation in these plans to between 85% and 95%. Also, we can steer workers out of risky and costly investments and boost retirement savings for millions by setting the default investments for 401(k) plans to low-cost, diversified index funds -- a smart way to begin.

• Second, for those who are not offered 401(k)s, the IRS should permit taxpayers to split their tax refund into more than one account. As the Brookings Institution's Retirement Security Project notes, with the average tax refund amounting to about $2,000 or 5% of median income, refunds can be a large source of savings. Right now, taxpayers can have the IRS directly deposit a refund into one bank account. Yet, many people need a portion of this money immediately so they choose to save none of it in a retirement account. By allowing taxpayers to split their refunds, we would enable them to deposit a portion in a checking account to cover immediate expenses and a portion in a tax-preferred savings account for retirement.

• Third, Congress should make it easier for companies to provide unbiased, third-party financial education. Currently, most employers avoid giving investment advice in order to avoid exposing themselves to fiduciary liability. Congress should explore clarifying the provisions of the Erisa law to encourage employers to provide much-needed, non-conflicted investment advice.


These proposals to boost retirement savings enjoy bipartisan support. Congress should move on solutions such as these, and then work on a separate track with the administration to devise a plan of sensible changes -- such as increasing wages subject to the Social Security tax, adding newly hired state and local workers to the Social Security system, or improving the long-term fiscal health of the country -- that can guarantee Social Security's solvency for decades to come.

I have spent a good deal of my life encouraging Americans to become investors, yet I don't believe Social Security is the way to do so. For me, this is a financial question as much as it is a philosophical one. As a society, are we prepared to replace the basic, guaranteed retirement benefit of Social Security with the potential of greater risk and -- to be fair -- greater reward of an investment account? Let's keep Social Security intact, and at the same time, encourage more Americans to invest for their retirements. We can do both.

Non_Comformist
04-26-2005, 03:51 PM
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Yet there are other, more fundamental, aspects of the PSA proposal's structure that merit serious concerns: The funds deposited in a PSA account are not free money. Every dollar you take out of traditional Social Security and put into a PSA must be paid back out of your Social Security benefit -- plus interest. If this sounds a lot like margin investing, it should not be a surprise since the PSA plan is modeled on that concept: A worker investing in a PSA would hope -- like a margin investor -- that assets accrued were greater than debts (money lent plus interest). If not, he would end up with a smaller Social Security benefit than if he stayed in the traditional system. To come out ahead, then, an investor would have to earn a rate of return that exceeds the interest of the loan, plus expenses.

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I no longer support this version of private savings accounts. That is absolutely retarded.

lehighguy
04-26-2005, 07:41 PM
I'm not sure where he is comming up with this.

The basic theorem of finance is risk/return tradeoff. Over the long run riskier assets should get a higher rate of return then less risky assets. Hence, treasuries, the current investment of choice for SS, have the LOWEST long run return of any asset class. Stock and corporate bond index funds (the proposed investment vehicles under SS privatization) both return more then treasuries over the long run.

If you believe the fundamental theory of finance, that there is a risk return tradeoff, then you have to believe treasuries have the lowest possible returns.

adios
04-27-2005, 01:00 AM
Here's an article explaining what Levitt's talking about:

This Bet May Cost You Big (http://)

From the article:

The other part of your payroll tax would go toward a private account invested in stocks, bonds or a mixture of the two. When you retire, your annual benefit would be docked by the amount of money you contributed to your private account, plus 3 percent a year, plus each year's inflation rate.

So in order for one to do better in the private account one has to make better than 3% + rate of inflation compounded. The long term inflation rate is generally thought to be around 3%, therefore you must make 6% a year or better compounded in your private account to do better than you would with Social Security because your benefits will be docked accordingly i.e. they will be docked by the amount you contribute to your private account + 6 percent of what you contribute to your private account compounded. The ex post return on the stock market has been in the neigborhood of 10 percent of the past 75 years or so. If that turns out to be the ex ante return for the next 75 years the best you can do is an additional 4 percent compounded of what you contribute to your private account. I think it's fair to say that most people believe one will only be docked for what they contribute to their private account and don't realize that you'll be docked an extra 6 percent of what you contribute compounded. IMO that's a big hurdle to overcome as long term government bonds aren't returning anywhere close to 6 percent compounded.

adios
04-27-2005, 01:05 AM
I support giving people the choice but educating them on what the choices entail. As I've stated before I wouldn't choose the private account option but it may make sense for others, especially upper echelon income earners. Again this seems to be a better idea than means testing to me. I agree with you though it's a cockamamee way to do these private accounts.

lehighguy
04-27-2005, 01:18 AM
Your making a mathematical error there. What your current SS contribution is "earning" = 3% - Inflation, not + Inflation. If you believe stocks/bonds will return more then 3% (treasuries) then you benefit from the program.

So if we do nothing, the "trust fund that doesn't really exist" will earn 3% per year because the government has to issue fewer treasuries each year since it finances its dept by raiding the trust fund and giving it treasuries. Thusly it is "earning" 3% per year in that the government doesn't have to pay 3% on the treasuries it didn't issue.

If you take money out of the trust fund and begin private accounts, the government will have to issue more treasuries because they can't raid the trust fund. They will pay 3% on these. If you take the money you took out and invest it in a SP500 index fund (a common option) that index fund need only return more then 3% for you to recieve benefits* above and beyond what you would recieve under the old plan. You'll note that by benefits I use the following definition:

Benefits* = Private Account Value at Retirement + Reduced Benefits Payed by Government

As I explained, it is IMPOSSIBLE for treasuries to have greater long run returns then stocks/bonds if you believe in even the simplest and most fundamental rules of finace/economics (or the mathematics backing them up for that matter).

Non_Comformist
04-27-2005, 01:24 AM
My dissatisfaction has nothing to with the level of return that can be achieved but rather with the notion that once someone directs a portion of their earnings to "private" accounts, that they somehow owe this amount back to the government upon retirement.

natedogg
04-27-2005, 02:34 AM
I'm in favor of whatever plan will hasten the demise of Social Security entirely. These PSA's just might do the trick, so I'm leaning in favor.

Although I'm perfectly content with the Democrats' plan. (sit around and wait). In about 10 years the general fund will have to begin paying back the trust fund bonds. Congress will then feel the pinch and you can bet your bottom dollar they'll do something about it. They will cry about cutting the widow's and orphans' fund from the general revenues in order to pay off the trust fund. Subsidizing XYZ corporation with $billions will never be mentioned as a possible cut.

They will then sadly inform us all that in order to "SAVE" social security they must cutting the (guaranteed) benefits, raise retirement, lift the FICA cap and increase the payroll tax.

Hopefully this will get us that much closer to the 'enough is enough' level.

If you want a really secure retirement, you should buy MY social security rights (http://www.socialsecuritydividend.com) /images/graemlins/smile.gif

natedogg

lehighguy
04-27-2005, 02:38 AM
Your already paying the FICA taxes. Your not borrowing anything to create PSAs, its your money. The only issue at hand is who will be in control of it, you or the government.