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Lmn55d
04-26-2005, 04:11 AM
No real reads. Villain has AF of 2.5 after 50 hands

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls.

River: (6.70 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.70 BB
billyjex
04-26-2005, 04:14 AM
I could never see just folding the flop here.

I think in these situations I'd raise the flop to hopefully take control of the hand. Checking or betting the turn, I don't know, but I want to get to showdown cheaply.
J.R.
04-26-2005, 04:16 AM
I either fold or raise the flop, betting a nonspade turn (folding to a check-raise) and looking far a free showdown or checking behind a spade and often calling (not overcalling) one bet on the river unimproved.
Lmn55d
04-26-2005, 04:21 AM
But if villain is someone who could be betting a draw or weaker made hand, aren't you afraid he will 3bet you with a worse hand, causing you to make a bad fold? This coupled with the fact that a worse hand will keep betting if you call but possibly fold if you raise made me take my line. I could be very wrong though. Plus, if villain bets turn and the other dude raises, its a really easy fold.
BreakEvenPlayer
04-26-2005, 04:49 AM
Raise flop, bet turn, check river... pretty standard here.
TheCaptain
04-26-2005, 07:23 AM
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But if villain is someone who could be betting a draw or weaker made hand, aren't you afraid he will 3bet you with a worse hand, causing you to make a bad fold?

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With no reads, a 3-bet means business.