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DasLeben

04-25-2005, 07:30 PM

I've been running a little bad lately (nothing horrendous though), so I'd like to just verify some plays with you guys just to make sure it's the cards.

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UTG (t1110)
Hero (t1285)
SB (t2640)
BB (t2965)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises t1285 (all-in)

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SB (t1915)
BB (t1065)
UTG (t2725)
Hero (t555)
Button (t1740)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises t555 (all-in)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t735)
MP1 (t1165)
MP2 (t770)
MP3 (t797)
CO (t690)
Button (t525)
SB (t695)
Hero (t775)
UTG (t1848)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, MP2 calls t30, 2 folds, Button calls t30, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (t105) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t30, Button raises to t60, Hero raises to t200, MP2 calls t170, Button calls t140.

Turn: (t705) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets t545 (all-in), MP2 calls t540 (all-in), Button calls t295 (all-in)

River: (t2085) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)

Final Pot: t2085

Bigwig

04-25-2005, 07:52 PM

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I've been running a little bad lately (nothing horrendous though), so I'd like to just verify some plays with you guys just to make sure it's the cards.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t1110)
Hero (t1285)
SB (t2640)
BB (t2965)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises t1285 (all-in)

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I like it.

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t1915)
BB (t1065)
UTG (t2725)
Hero (t555)
Button (t1740)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises t555 (all-in)

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I like it if the blinds are going up in the next 4 hands or so.

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t735)
MP1 (t1165)
MP2 (t770)
MP3 (t797)
CO (t690)
Button (t525)
SB (t695)
Hero (t775)
UTG (t1848)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, MP2 calls t30, 2 folds, Button calls t30, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (t105) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t30, Button raises to t60, Hero raises to t200, MP2 calls t170, Button calls t140.

Turn: (t705) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets t545 (all-in), MP2 calls t540 (all-in), Button calls t295 (all-in)

River: (t2085) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)

Final Pot: t2085

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I don't like your check on the flop. It's important that you bet the bottom two pair first, and define your hand. After you were called after reraising a reraise by TWO players, it's time to go in the tank. You're most likely beat.

vinyard

04-25-2005, 08:40 PM

I like the first one even into two decent sized stacks. You really have to loosen calling requirements for the stacks before its -EV.

The second, one, using Eastbay's calcculator is a straight up push no matter how loose the calling standards for the remaining three players. I guess that makes sense as its not an awful hand and you are in rough shape.

You have to bet the third reasonably aggressively on the flop. Out of curiousity, what were the results?

prepotency

04-25-2005, 08:47 PM

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t735)
MP1 (t1165)
MP2 (t770)
MP3 (t797)
CO (t690)
Button (t525)
SB (t695)
Hero (t775)
UTG (t1848)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, MP2 calls t30, 2 folds, Button calls t30, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (t105) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t30, Button raises to t60, Hero raises to t200, MP2 calls t170, Button calls t140.

Turn: (t705) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
Hero bets t545 (all-in), MP2 calls t540 (all-in), Button calls t295 (all-in)

River: (t2085) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)

Final Pot: t2085

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I would have just pushed or bet this flop hard, I don't want to allow someone to pot-stick themselves with an ace or allow a free turn card - IMO you don't have the chips/time to play fancy on this multi-way pot

Here's the thing: when you flop bottom 2, you don't want to create a multiway pot. If you allow these small bets to go on, your 200 doesn't seem so big and you will induce people to chase these flush draws because you're not raising enough to push them out given the implied odds of the hand that your betting created on the turn.

DasLeben

04-25-2005, 08:49 PM

Thanks for the inputs guys, especially on Hand 3. I can tell my postflop skills have started to decline since I've started playing primarily SNGs. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

The results for Hand 3: Button had AQo and took it down.

Apathy

04-25-2005, 08:54 PM

All of these hands look fine to me. The pushes are good, and the Q6 hand would probably play easier with a bet/raise flop combo as opposed to the check, good turn push though.