top 2 pair vs a c/r of a tight player

[MINETZ]

the hand converter isnt working so i will have to say what happened
100 NL
im sitting with about 150 with qjs on button. 2 limpers before the raiser who makes it 4 to go, i call sb calls limpers call flop comes qj8 2 D, checks to the raiser who bets 9 i make it 27 SB goes ai for 75 more preflop raiser folds, at this point i just dont know, his stats are 1.27 agression over 140 hands.
Any comments will be appreciated
Noah

[TreyOfLight]

I'd be curious to know his VP$IP and PFR numbers.

1.27 is too high for a fish and too low for a maniac, so I'll assume reasonable calling standards and also take his push to mean that he's beating TPTK. Given the preflop action, AA/KK or a worse two pair are unlikely.

I think he has a set or the nuts often enough that I fold here.

[Raydain]

I would have bought something on ebay with my winnings... and then clicked the call button

[steaknshake925]

you have to call here although i wouldnt enjoy doing it. a set is most likely for villain but its next to impossible for u to fold since he could also have a lower 2pair or K10 diamonds. u do have fairly decent pot odds, 4 outs against a set, and the Random Party Fvcktard factor going for you, so callin is probly correct here. although it cant be too huge of a mistake if u fold, this is pretty close IMO.

[spoohunter]

You don't not have 4 outs against a set. How often does he have 88 here? Why do you think a tight player is raising 109?

He has aces and kings often enough to make this callable, quickly. You do NOT make straights and flushes often enough to make this call profitable.

[TreyOfLight]

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He has aces and kings often enough to make this callable, quickly. You do NOT make straights and flushes often enough to make this call profitable.

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The pf raiser folded. The action is coming from the SB.

[xorbie]

This is nowhere near that easy a decision.

I think it's extremely likely hero is losing and the only thing that would make me consider calling is the odds he is getting (like 4:1).

If you are behind, you have at best 4 outs, meaning about 16% equity. If you are ahead, you are probably way ahead of AA/KK/Q9/J9. So you have to be ahead a good amount to justify a call, but it's close.

[MINETZ]

dont be too quick to buy anything on e bay. the play had 88 and i didnt catch my 4 outter
thx for the input guys
Noah

[TreyOfLight]

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pot odds (like 4:1)

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Or less.

OP: "sb goes ai for 75 more" There's 158 in the pot and it's 75 to call.