$20 KK standard?

[thebigduder]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t785)
BB (t800)
UTG (t875)
UTG+1 (t1110)
UTG+2 (t860)
MP1 (t785)
MP2 (t405)
MP3 (t835)
Hero (t770)
Button (t775)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t95</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls t80, UTG+2 calls t80, MP3 calls t80.

Flop: (t402.50) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t277</font>, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls t277, MP3 calls t227.

Turn: (t1233.50) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1233.50) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets t90</font>, MP3 calls t90, Hero calls t90.

Final Pot: t1503.50

[Bigwig]

No.

Push that flop.

[dfscott]

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No.

Push that flop.

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[Fatdogs12]

Are we pushing hoping someone with a Ten in hand will call or are we pushing to take the pot?

[dfscott]

Well, you always want worse hands to call, but the pot is worth winning now, so your push here is to make drawing hands either fold or call with improper odds.

[hummusx]

I'm not sure I totally get it either. I would expect a reasonable sized bet to chase out anyone that shouldn't be in the pot. Someone that has you beat is going to call the all-in.

[tjh]

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I'm not sure I totally get it either. I would expect a reasonable sized bet to chase out anyone that shouldn't be in the pot. Someone that has you beat is going to call the all-in.

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Nobody is likely to have him beat on the flop. Possible but unlikely. Flsuh draws and a pair of tens are possible.

10 players remain in a 20$ SNG.. They might call with all kinds of junk. Really, that is why we play them /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I agree Push the flop

[pokerlaw]

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I would expect a reasonable sized bet to chase out anyone that shouldn't be in the pot.

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With a bigger stack size I would agree with you, but the pot currently has 450 chips in it and Hero has 675. a push is the move IMO.

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Someone that has you beat is going to call the all-in.

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other than a set or AA (who prob would have reraised), Hero has the best hand. He will get called by a lot more - AK, AQ, A10-J10, flush draws, 77-QQ are all possibilities.

[thebigduder]

Thanks for the replies.

Having been away and now coming back to the hand, pushing the flop seems an obvious play. I'm actually pricing a hand like Axd in here. Also too many cards I don't want to see on the turn (T,A,d). When the action in front of me was UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets t50, I wasn't really thinking about the play. I figured my raise would simply take down the pot. Which is not a good assumption to make.

I now also think my pfr was too small in this case.

[Bigwig]

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With a bigger stack size I would agree with you, but the pot currently has 450 chips in it and Hero has 675. a push is the move IMO.

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Yes. Additionally, Hero is facing THREE opponents postflop. Giving anybody a cheap free card here is nuts. You need to bet 2/3 of the pot--minimum. And that easily pot commits you. I'm content with increasing my stack by 50%.