AA hand -should I have slowed down?

[Davey]

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, CO folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.


Turn: (12.75 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.

This is were i was kind of confused about what to do. I wasnt sure if utg+2 was going for a check-raise or not but when mp1 bets i had no idea if he had slowplayed a set or not.


River: (15.75 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

I have to bet this river every time if they check it to me right? The way these two played this hand against me I wasnt to sure how good I was.

Final Pot: 18.75 BB

[MrEngenic]

I like it. You cap the flop and you are bet into on the turn, expect a bluff or a set here and call down from here. If you raise you will be 3-bet by a set or two pair and a bluff will fold. Let him bluff the river too. Easy bet on the river, you have the best hand if you are not up against those "extra tricky" opponents who go out of their way to play in mysterious ways.

[Isura]

Turn is fine. THere is no good reason to raise here. Your hand doesn't really need protection here, and you want to get to a showdown. I don't think most players would bet into a flop capper on such a ragged board. River is good. Nice Hand.

[@bsolute_luck]

you have to have reads on this to bet that river. i'd have raised the turn.

i'm calling 'cause i think you're losing to 2 pair that check for fear of a straight.

UTG+2: pair of tens with possible A kicker.
MP2: i hope he's not this loose but 67s, T7s

[Davey]

if you would have raised the turn whats wrong with raising the river when checked to. I was just going to call a bet but when they both checked I didnt want to miss a bet.

And i was pretty new to the table but the table in general was loose, nothing really crazy just alot of mutli way pots.

I'll post the results a little later

[Isura]

What hands do you put villian on that makes you want to raise the turn? I think it's probably some ragged 2 pair, and you have outs to counterfeit some two pair hands.

[Buckmulligan]

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I have to bet this river every time if they check it to me right? The way these two played this hand against me I wasnt to sure how good I was.


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Only if I thought I cold fold a two pair, and I don't. I don't bet this; what would be pretty difficult wuold be deciding whether or not to call.

[Davey]

-Only if I thought I cold fold a two pair, and I don't. I don't bet this-


wouldnt most people with 2p bet this river? i didnt re-raise the turn so i dont think there will be a check-raise if i bet.

-what would be pretty difficult wuold be deciding whether or not to call. -

i dont see how you could fold for one bet on the river. and if i was going to call a bet i might as well bet it myself.

[@bsolute_luck]

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What hands do you put villian on that makes you want to raise the turn? I think it's probably some ragged 2 pair, and you have outs to counterfeit some two pair hands.

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in my original post i had put MP on ragged 2 pair, but that was only because i knew he checked the river. if i didn't know that, i could guess a straight draw. so i'm raising.

also in my other post, i had said w/o reads this is a difficult board to play because will MP bet on a draw? what's he play preflop from MP? is he really loose and play any offsuit connectors or suited connectors or what?

plus, and this might be wrong, i could careless if UTG stays in this hand or not. it's just my thoughts /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Buckmulligan]

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wouldnt most people with 2p bet this river? i didnt re-raise the turn so i dont think there will be a check-raise if i bet.

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If you think you are ahead on the river, why didn't you think you were ahead on the turn and raise there?

[aK13]

I raise the turn, UTG+2 3bets, then I check/call the river.

[Davey]

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If you think you are ahead on the river, why didn't you think you were ahead on the turn and raise there?

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I wasnt sure if i was ahead on the turn. mp1 just called the flop bets and the raised the turn so i didnt know if it was a set or 2p or something else. if i raise then that shuts out utg+2 and either i get 3-bet and im probally losing or i just get called and the river would have been the same. i think my line had me losing the least and gaining the most(unless utg+2 called 2 bets on the turn)

[Davey]

heres the results for everyone interested

hero shows [ Ac, As ] a pair of aces.
utg+2 doesn't show [ Th, Kh ] a pair of tens.
mp1 doesn't show [ Tc, Qd ] a pair of tens.
hero wins $36.5 from the main pot with a pair of aces.

[deepsquat]

I would raise the turn. If 3 bet id call down from there w/out a read.

[hicherbie]

i would have guess you are behind by the turn...and they are checking their hand because they are scared of the 8. i would check this one through.

[sweave1]

I would have rasied the turn as well and just kept pumping it. you have top pair and after the multi suited flop i think you just drive them out.

sweave1

[JDErickson]

raising this turn is chip spewage most of the time. You capped the flop and they still bet into you on the turn.

Just call.

I'd probably just check the river also. I wouldn't want to fold to a raise.

[xenthebrain]

I raise the turn to protect my hand from utg+2