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Double Eagle
04-23-2005, 04:25 PM
These are the types of hands I struggle with, both came from last night's Stars $11 Single Rebuy Plus Add-on tourney.

In the first hand there are 100 or so left with 81 getting paid. No particular read on the villain, I have been playing more than my share of pots but showing down good hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t35722)
MP2 (t12559)
MP3 (t11835)
CO (t8327)
Button (t20583)
SB (t59950)
BB (t3680)
Hero (t24215)
UTG+1 (t9593)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3600</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls t3600, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t7800) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero????

In the second hand there are 60 left, my read on the Villain here is that he's a bit on the loose side. This is a fairly new table and I've been active but just busted a short stack with KK.
okerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP3 (t18735)
CO (t25994)
Button (t34581)
SB (t137009)
BB (t27536)
UTG (t20578)
UTG+1 (t38873)
MP1 (t52720)
Hero (t46335)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t9000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t9000, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t19200) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ?????

Pat Southern
04-23-2005, 06:12 PM
I push hand one and bet about 8k and call a push in the 2nd one.

2005
04-23-2005, 07:23 PM
Hand 1 you push 20k into an 8k pot? Seems excessive. I'm not saying you should fold, but bet less than 20k. 2nd hand sounds good.

Gavin

Pat Southern
04-23-2005, 07:24 PM
Look at the villain's stack.

2005
04-23-2005, 07:28 PM
AHA!! Silly details /images/graemlins/wink.gif NH Pat.

Gavin

Chief911
04-23-2005, 08:19 PM
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No particular read on the villain

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Why not? Were you paying attention? What had he done with big hands previously? Reraised? Smooth called?

Double Eagle
04-23-2005, 08:49 PM
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No particular read on the villain

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Why not? Were you paying attention? What had he done with big hands previously? Reraised? Smooth called?

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Only hand I saw him play was 99 vs AK all in pre-flop to double up a couple orbits earlier.