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A_PLUS
04-23-2005, 05:56 AM
About 45ish players left. Top 20 pay. I am below the average stack. Due to a few semi-maniacs at my table, I have been invloved in relatively few pots, and to an observant player, my image is tight aggressive.

I have been at this table for about 4-5 orbits. I have the BB pegged as weak tight. He has yet to follow up a preflop bet with a continuation bet on the flop (3x). check-calling a pot sized flop bet only to lay down the turn once.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button (t2995)
SB (t1675)
<font color="#C00000">BB (t1040)</font>
UTG (t3040)
UTG+1 (t3095)
MP1 (t2025)
MP2 (t4750)
MP3 (t1950)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1738)</font>

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB All-in for 940</font>, MP2 Folds, Hero???

Ok, my very quick thoughts:

The blinds are going up next hand, and he will be left with under 900 chips when the SB passes, he may be gettign desperate. Call

His preflop standards are high so far.Fold

He may think my preflop standards are high. Fold

If I fold, I will be left with under 10X the big blind at an aggressive table Call

The pot is offering me 2:1. The range I quickly assume is 5+ PPs, and most suited Aces, KQ, maybe KJs, ATo. So I call.

After the fact, I still think the correct move is call, although, maybe I should tighten up his range a little. But with the table dynamics (2, players that love to see flops, and the big stack who will call any push with TP any kicker). I think I can really make a move for a top spot if I can get some breathing room.

I did call. And think it was correct. Does anyone disagree, or having any other factors that they think I should consider for he next time I am in a similar situation?

Also, the reason for the steal here, is the players yet to act were all tight, and the original limper was the loose big stack, who usually only called large raises when he had position, and his post flop play was horrible. So even if he called, I wasnt in bad shape.

Prime Time
04-23-2005, 07:51 AM
I think your call was fine.
What were the blinds?
You were getting the correct price.

A_PLUS
04-23-2005, 11:04 AM
The blinds were 50/100, going to 75/150 within the next minute.

I just worry, I put myself in too many of these "caught stealing, oh well, now I am getting the odds to call" type of situations where I am dominated. Do you think you will see a 5-10X BB stack come back over the top with KQ, KJ, type hands enough to make them realistic components of your oponents range.

It is not a huge sample, but sometimes I feel like I am adding them in, so I can justify an otherwise bad call.

Apathy
04-23-2005, 11:25 AM
This call isn't close at all. You are getting insane odds on the call and would be correct to do so even if he showed you KK. The problem is with your initial raise size, personally I think a fold PF is best since no matter what you raise you are pretty much obligated to call a push from the BB.

2005
04-23-2005, 02:08 PM
recheck your math...

150(blinds)+100(limper)+400(your raise)+940(his push)=1590 It costs you 540 to call. You're getting nearly 3-1, this is an easy call.

Gavin

davidross
04-23-2005, 02:15 PM
Recheck it once more, it's 640 to call because the 940 was on top of his 100 already posted, but it doesn't change the math much.

I put the BB on a much narrower range of hands though, 88 and up and big aces, giving hero only 3 outs, so I think it's closer but still a call.

TheTimeIsUp
04-23-2005, 02:55 PM
This is a very, very easy call. You are getting huge odds here. I call with any 2.

A_PLUS
04-23-2005, 04:32 PM
timeisup. I would rather make this call with any two low suited cards than A7 here. The main reason I was questioning the call is b/c I think a tighter range of hands leaves me dominated most of the time. With this tighter rang, apx 2.5 - 1 isnt that far off.