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Generator
04-22-2005, 10:40 PM
...of this Party 10+1, and comment on my push points? Sorry to post a whole HH, but I'm feeling a little lost and wondering if there are some points I'm missing. This is mostly 5-handed - not quite to the bubble - and that's the area where I feel like I'm flying blind.

Anyway, to anyone who can spare the time for this, thanks in advance.



#Game No : 1935884159
***** Hand History for Game 1935884159 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Friday, April 22, 19:21:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: vezev00 ( $620 )
Seat 10: checksgood1 ( $510 )
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1315 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $940 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $735 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $3225 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $655 )
Trny:11537325 Level:3Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 3d 2c ]
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 calls [50].
jdj34 calls [50].
safodc folds.
checksgood1 calls [25].
vezev00 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 2s, Ks ]
checksgood1 checks.
vezev00 checks.
Kurdt508 checks.
jdj34 bets [50].
checksgood1 folds.
vezev00 folds.
Kurdt508 folds.
jdj34 does not show cards.
jdj34 wins 250 chips
Game #1935887104 starts.

#Game No : 1935887104
***** Hand History for Game 1935887104 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Friday, April 22, 19:22:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: vezev00 ( $570 )
Seat 10: checksgood1 ( $460 )
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1465 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $940 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $735 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $3175 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $655 )
Trny:11537325 Level:3Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 8d Kh ]
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 folds.
jdj34 folds.
safodc folds.
checksgood1 raises [100].
vezev00 folds.
BortDatsun is all-In [605]
checksgood1 is all-In [360]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, 7s, 5d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
checksgood1 shows [ 8s, Ad ] a pair of eights.
BortDatsun shows [ 8d, Kh ] two pairs, kings and eights.
BortDatsun wins 195 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and eights.
BortDatsun wins 945 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and eights.
checksgood1 finished in seventh place.
checksgood1 has left the table.
Game #1935889960 starts.

#Game No : 1935889960
***** Hand History for Game 1935889960 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Friday, April 22, 19:22:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: vezev00 ( $545 )
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1465 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $940 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $735 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $3175 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $1140 )
Trny:11537325 Level:3Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ Ks 9c ]
Kurdt508 raises [100].
jdj34 calls [100].
safodc folds.
vezev00 folds.
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 4h, 2h ]
Kurdt508 bets [50].
jdj34 calls [50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]
Kurdt508 bets [50].
jdj34 calls [50].
** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
Kurdt508 bets [50].
jdj34 calls [50].
Kurdt508 shows [ 8d, 8h ] a pair of eights.
jdj34 shows [ Ad, 5c ] a pair of aces.
jdj34 wins 575 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
Game #1935892491 starts.

#Game No : 1935892491
***** Hand History for Game 1935892491 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, April 22, 19:23:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: vezev00 ( $545 )
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1790 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $890 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $735 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $2925 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $1115 )
Trny:11537325 Level:4Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ Kc 7h ]
jdj34 raises [200].
safodc folds.
vezev00 folds.
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 folds.
jdj34 does not show cards.
jdj34 wins 350 chips
Game #1935894018 starts.

#Game No : 1935894018
***** Hand History for Game 1935894018 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, April 22, 19:23:22 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: vezev00 ( $545 )
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1940 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $840 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $735 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $2825 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $1115 )
Trny:11537325 Level:4Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 5d 9d ]
safodc folds.
vezev00 folds.
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 raises [200].
jdj34 folds.
Kurdt508 does not show cards.
Kurdt508 wins 350 chips
Game #1935895902 starts.

#Game No : 1935895902
***** Hand History for Game 1935895902 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, April 22, 19:23:42 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: vezev00 ( $545 )
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1840 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $840 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $735 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $2925 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $1115 )
Trny:11537325 Level:4Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 9h 3h ]
vezev00 folds.
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 calls [100].
jdj34 calls [50].
safodc checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 2c, Ah ]
jdj34 checks.
safodc checks.
Kurdt508 bets [100].
jdj34 folds.
safodc folds.
Kurdt508 does not show cards.
Kurdt508 wins 400 chips
Game #1935898265 starts.

#Game No : 1935898265
***** Hand History for Game 1935898265 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, April 22, 19:24:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: vezev00 ( $545 )
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1740 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $840 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $635 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $3125 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $1115 )
Trny:11537325 Level:4Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 3s Jc ]
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 raises [200].
jdj34 folds.
safodc calls [150].
vezev00 calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 9d, 4s ]
safodc checks.
vezev00 checks.
Kurdt508 bets [475].
safodc is all-In [435]
vezev00 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Kurdt508 shows [ 5c, 5d ] a pair of fives.
safodc shows [ Js, Ks ] a pair of kings.
Kurdt508 wins 40 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of fives.
safodc wins 1470 chips from the main pot with a pair of kings.
Game #1935902251 starts.

#Game No : 1935902251
***** Hand History for Game 1935902251 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, April 22, 19:24:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: vezev00 ( $345 )
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1740 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $840 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $1470 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $2490 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $1115 )
Trny:11537325 Level:4Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 5h Qd ]
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 folds.
jdj34 raises [200].
safodc folds.
vezev00 folds.
BortDatsun folds.
jdj34 does not show cards.
jdj34 wins 350 chips
Game #1935904550 starts.

#Game No : 1935904550
***** Hand History for Game 1935904550 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, April 22, 19:25:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: vezev00 ( $295 )
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1890 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $840 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $1470 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $2490 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $1015 )
Trny:11537325 Level:4Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ Tc Qs ]
Kurdt508 folds.
jdj34 raises [350].
safodc folds.
vezev00 folds.
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
jdj34 does not show cards.
jdj34 wins 500 chips
Game #1935905931 starts.

#Game No : 1935905931
***** Hand History for Game 1935905931 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, April 22, 19:25:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: vezev00 ( $295 )
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $2040 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $740 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $1470 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $2490 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $965 )
Trny:11537325 Level:4Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 7s 8s ]
jdj34 folds.
safodc folds.
vezev00 is all-In [295]
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 calls [195].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Jc, Ah ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kd ]
Kurdt508 shows [ 5s, Td ] a pair of tens.
vezev00 shows [ 6s, 6d ] a pair of sixes.
Kurdt508 wins 640 chips from the main pot with a pair of tens.
vezev00 finished in sixth place.
vezev00 has left the table.
Game #1935909096 starts.

#Game No : 1935909096
***** Hand History for Game 1935909096 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, April 22, 19:26:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $2040 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $690 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $1470 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $2835 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $965 )
Trny:11537325 Level:4Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ Jd 9d ]
safodc folds.
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 calls [50].
jdj34 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 7c, 5h ]
Kurdt508 checks.
jdj34 bets [100].
Kurdt508 calls [100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]
Kurdt508 checks.
jdj34 bets [100].
Kurdt508 calls [100].
** Dealing River ** [ 4s ]
Kurdt508 checks.
jdj34 bets [100].
Kurdt508 calls [100].
jdj34 shows [ Jc, 2s ] a pair of twos.
Kurdt508 shows [ Qh, 7d ] a pair of sevens.
Kurdt508 wins 800 chips from the main pot with a pair of sevens.
Game #1935911812 starts.

#Game No : 1935911812
***** Hand History for Game 1935911812 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, April 22, 19:26:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1640 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $690 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $1470 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $3235 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $965 )
Trny:11537325 Level:4Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 6d Kh ]
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 calls [100].
jdj34 calls [50].
safodc checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, 6h, 2c ]
jdj34 checks.
safodc bets [100].
Kurdt508 calls [100].
jdj34 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
safodc bets [325].
Kurdt508 folds.
safodc does not show cards.
safodc wins 825 chips
Game #1935914903 starts.

#Game No : 1935914903
***** Hand History for Game 1935914903 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Friday, April 22, 19:27:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1540 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $690 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $1770 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $3035 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $965 )
Trny:11537325 Level:4Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ Ah 6d ]
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 calls [100].
jdj34 folds.
safodc calls [50].
BortDatsun checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 7c, 2h ]
safodc checks.
BortDatsun checks.
Kurdt508 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
safodc checks.
BortDatsun bets [300].
Kurdt508 folds.
safodc folds.
BortDatsun does not show cards.
BortDatsun wins 600 chips
Game #1935919949 starts.

#Game No : 1935919949
***** Hand History for Game 1935919949 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, April 22, 19:27:55 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1540 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $690 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $1670 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $2935 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $1165 )
Trny:11537325 Level:5Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 2s Td ]
Kurdt508 folds.
jdj34 folds.
safodc folds.
BortDatsun is all-In [1065]
lorthos is all-In [490]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Ad, 5d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4h ]
BortDatsun shows [ 2s, Td ] three of a kind, fours.
lorthos shows [ Ah, Tc ] a full house, Fours full of aces.
BortDatsun wins 475 chips from side pot #1 with three of a kind, fours.
lorthos wins 1380 chips from the main pot with a full house, Fours full of aces.
Game #1935922707 starts.

#Game No : 1935922707
***** Hand History for Game 1935922707 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, April 22, 19:28:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1540 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $1380 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $1670 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $2935 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $475 )
Trny:11537325 Level:5Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 3d Tc ]
jdj34 folds.
safodc folds.
safodc: <---dont like thiefs
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 does not show cards.
Kurdt508 wins 300 chips
Game #1935925748 starts.

#Game No : 1935925748
***** Hand History for Game 1935925748 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, April 22, 19:28:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1540 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $1280 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $1670 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $3035 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $475 )
Trny:11537325 Level:5Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ Th 2c ]
safodc folds.
BortDatsun folds.
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 calls [100].
jdj34 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, 4d, 5s ]
Kurdt508 checks.
jdj34 bets [200].
Kurdt508 folds.
jdj34 does not show cards.
jdj34 wins 600 chips
Game #1935927987 starts.

#Game No : 1935927987
***** Hand History for Game 1935927987 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, April 22, 19:29:20 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1740 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $1280 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $1670 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $2835 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $475 )
Trny:11537325 Level:5Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ Kh 9d ]
BortDatsun is all-In [475]
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 folds.
jdj34 calls [375].
safodc folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, Js, 9h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
BortDatsun shows [ Kh, 9d ] a pair of nines.
jdj34 shows [ As, Ac ] a pair of aces.
jdj34 wins 1150 chips from the main pot with a pair of aces.
BortDatsun finished in fifth place.
BortDatsun has left the table.
Game #1935930186 starts.

davehwm
04-22-2005, 11:15 PM
[ QUOTE ]

HAND #1:

#Game No : 1935887104
***** Hand History for Game 1935887104 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Friday, April 22, 19:22:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: vezev00 ( $570 )
Seat 10: checksgood1 ( $460 )
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1465 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $940 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $735 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $3175 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $655 )
Trny:11537325 Level:3Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 8d Kh ]
lorthos folds.
Kurdt508 folds.
jdj34 folds.
safodc folds.
checksgood1 raises [100].
vezev00 folds.
BortDatsun is all-In [605]
checksgood1 is all-In [360]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, 7s, 5d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
checksgood1 shows [ 8s, Ad ] a pair of eights.
BortDatsun shows [ 8d, Kh ] two pairs, kings and eights.
BortDatsun wins 195 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, kings and eights.
BortDatsun wins 945 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and eights.
checksgood1 finished in seventh place.
checksgood1 has left the table.
Game #1935889960 starts.



HAND #2:
#Game No : 1935919949
***** Hand History for Game 1935919949 *****
NL Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:11537325 Level:5 Blinds(100/200) - Friday, April 22, 19:27:55 EDT 2005
Table Table 11731 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 8: jdj34 ( $1540 )
Seat 4: lorthos ( $690 )
Seat 9: safodc ( $1670 )
Seat 5: Kurdt508 ( $2935 )
Seat 3: BortDatsun ( $1165 )
Trny:11537325 Level:5Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BortDatsun [ 2s Td ]
Kurdt508 folds.
jdj34 folds.
safodc folds.
BortDatsun is all-In [1065]
lorthos is all-In [490]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, Ad, 5d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4h ]
BortDatsun shows [ 2s, Td ] three of a kind, fours.
lorthos shows [ Ah, Tc ] a full house, Fours full of aces.
BortDatsun wins 475 chips from side pot #1 with three of a kind, fours.
lorthos wins 1380 chips from the main pot with a full house, Fours full of aces.
Game #1935922707 starts.


[/ QUOTE ]

Disclaimer: I just picked out two pushes. I'm a newb so take it with a grain of salt. Maybe now that I've isolated a couple of hands, more people will be willing to post and comment (and comment on my comments).

HAND #1:
He's already committed about 1/4 of his stack with the min-raise. Likely that he's just trying to steal, but I don't know whether he'll be willing to fold to a re-raise under many conditions. You're in big trouble against any Ax, PPs, etc. More importantly, the blinds are still 25/50, I don't think you need to panic quite yet.

HAND #2: Another situation where villian has committed 1/4 of his stack. In a 10+1 I don't think you have enough folding equity here to be pushing with any two.

Generator
04-22-2005, 11:34 PM
Cool, thanks. I suppose a second question, besides whether these push-points were okay, is where opportunities were that I missed.

microbet
04-23-2005, 12:38 AM
The second hand you list. I would have folded the K8. K8 isn't so good. The guy with 460 really shouldn't be minraising - maybe a trap, but even if not you are possibly beat.

I think the J9s you get a bit later is a possible push. It is very close. I didn't really pay much attention to the other players. If they are tight, I think it is a good push.

The A6 coming up is a tough hand, but with the blinds advancing on the next hand I think more aggression is called for. I think it is a pretty good spot to push preflop or at least on the flop.

The T2o push is probably bugging you. You did lose a lot with it. It was a good push, IMO. BB would have to be very willing to call to make it a bad push. Oh and then someone said they "don't like thiefs." A lot of people don't like thieves in theory, but you still only got called by AT and AA. Those are the breaks.

Don't let the chat bother you.

Generator
04-23-2005, 05:06 AM
Thanks for the look... yeah, the chat is worthless, and it's true that I only got called by legitimate hands. I suppose the guy who said he "doesn't like thiefs" is hoping for lifelong positive variance - a PP or AK every time he pushes.

As a side note - Raptor, Citanul, Irie? I'd love to hear your take on these 20 hands or so.

DasLeben
04-23-2005, 05:11 AM
Enjoy the fact that people complain about you in the chat. It means that you're doing what you should be doing.