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HollywoodDB
04-22-2005, 07:30 PM
I'm posting this hand because I find myself in this situation often. I called the river raise. Am I throwing away a bet evreytime I call in this situation or is this a standard call?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP1 posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Button calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB
hicherbie
04-22-2005, 07:34 PM
i think a call is usually fine in these situations. you will run across somebody being stupid enough times here to make it profitable.
aK13
04-22-2005, 07:37 PM
this is typically an auto call.
toss
04-22-2005, 07:54 PM
No, I like this call 7 handed. I'd call a large majority of the times full ring too.
Disconnected
04-22-2005, 07:59 PM
I think you're in trouble here, but I think you have to call. Pot's too big to let go for a single bet.

Would we overcall in this situation, though, or fold?
PokerBob
04-22-2005, 08:06 PM
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I'm posting this hand because I find myself in this situation often. I called the river raise. Am I throwing away a bet evreytime I call in this situation or is this a standard call?

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP1 posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Button calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

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Standard. You cannot fold here for 1 bet because (a) the pot is large; you only need to be good here 9% of the time and (b) if an observant player catches that, he will raise scary rivers in the future on you
xenthebrain
04-23-2005, 07:10 AM
I'd play it the same. You cannot fold TP in this situation.
And folding would be very weak.