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wegs the wegs
04-22-2005, 05:27 PM
Nothing spectacular about the villian on this one. Semi-loose/passive player not too horrible but no where near being called good.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">SB ($27.40)</font>
BB ($51.65)
UTG ($78.20)
UTG+1 ($22.50)
MP1 ($41.60)
MP2 ($24.25)
CO ($23.50)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.25)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, SB calls $2, BB folds, UTG folds.

Turn: ($6) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, SB calls $6.

River: ($18) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15.75 (All-In)</font>, SB calls $15.75.

Final Pot: $49.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 9h Td (full house, tens full of nines).
Hero has Kd Tc (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: SB wins $49.50. </font>

Just another reason why I need to stop playing on UB. I just can't seem to win. It's not rigged. However the beatings are becoming expected and with that piling up in my mind I just can't afford to play there anymore.

wegs the wegs
04-22-2005, 05:40 PM
I apologize if this is a bad beat post and comes off as whiny. I just reread the post and it sounded a bit childish, forgive me.

xorbie
04-22-2005, 06:03 PM
That's how I would play it too. Bad beats suck, oh well.

TrailofTears
04-22-2005, 06:06 PM
Yeah, it is a bit whiny. Nothing you can do here. No draws came in and villain didn't overplay his trips at all, so there is nothing you can do. He saw your agression (not bad, btw) and used it against you.

-Trail

neuroman
04-22-2005, 06:07 PM
Yeah, I'd probably do the same.

joewatch
04-22-2005, 07:44 PM
Consider checking the turn. Definitely check the river. You have to be afraid of AT.

Siawyn
04-22-2005, 08:35 PM
Check the turn to induce a "bluff" by an ace on the river? Bad luck he hit his 3 outer but he didn't overplay his hand or anything.

-Skeme-
04-23-2005, 02:50 AM
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Consider checking the turn. Definitely check the river. You have to be afraid of AT.

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Don't check the turn. You played it fine.

xorbie
04-23-2005, 02:53 AM
He didn't use it again the OP per se, because he only made his hand on the river and by then he has no choice, it's a clear call.

kevin017
04-23-2005, 03:02 AM
well played. if you're up against someone who's only so-so i think a push is fine on the river, but i myself might check it, and if you're having variance problems I think checking in situations like this would help you out. your hand is good but far from unbeatable, and if he's called this far you should give him credit for something.

AncientPC
04-23-2005, 04:51 AM
ul

Malachii
04-23-2005, 05:28 AM
You played it unlucky. That's it. Don't second guess yourself.

punter11235
04-23-2005, 09:52 AM
I would raise preflop here.
After flop I think there is no way you can get away with that hand.

-Skeme-
04-23-2005, 09:55 AM
Why would you raise it preflop?

punter11235
04-23-2005, 10:03 AM
I think K10o is not much worse hand than UTG limper's one and I dont want to let blinds see the flop for free.
Furthermore I can usually pick the pot if flop missed both of us (limper and me) as I have position here.
Is it too aggressive ? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

-Skeme-
04-23-2005, 10:08 AM
Depends on the table. To use your position and get aggressive to take the pot away on the flop when they miss is a viable reason to raise, but it seems like it'd just push out the weaker hands and keep in the stronger ones.

Also, I forgot to mention to OP. Fold this preflop.

emil3000
04-23-2005, 10:10 AM
I'd raise it with the right limpers, like tight ones. Against loose limpers that are likely to call I avoid raising with bad hands. Not many tight players on that level tho.

-Skeme-
04-23-2005, 10:11 AM
Correct, which is why I think folding this is good. KTo sucks. Postflop it was played fine, though. Just bad luck.

punter11235
04-23-2005, 10:29 AM
My understanding is : if limpers are likely to call my raise with weak hands that's great I will raise more, because my K10o is better than average loose limper hands. Additionaly I would usually win against: suited connectors, lower pair, unsuited connectors, one gap connectors without much fight, because people usually play them in the "hit or fold" manner.

TrailofTears
04-23-2005, 11:11 AM
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He didn't use it again the OP per se, because he only made his hand on the river and by then he has no choice, it's a clear call.

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Yeah, but villain checked the river instead of betting, risking the check behind from hero. That is all I meant.

-Trail