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SkyRocker
04-22-2005, 11:37 AM
No read on MP2 but the table is tight (~25% VP$IP)

Absolute Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (7 SB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ts Tc (full house, threes full of tens).
MP2 doesn't show.
Outcome: Hero wins 6.50 BB. </font>

Should I be value betting or trying to induce a bluff on the river against an unknown opponent?

jaxUp
04-22-2005, 11:39 AM
You should be value betting this all day long. I have been falling into a trap of checking these hands OOP. I lie to myself and say I want to induce a bluff, but really, I am a pussy. So, stop lying to yourself. Bet that mutha.

Marquis
04-22-2005, 11:44 AM
You shouldn't have shown the river action. Easy bet tho, what more do you want?

SkyRocker
04-22-2005, 11:52 AM
Yes Sir!

HajiShirazu
04-22-2005, 11:54 AM
This is like, the easiest value bet in the world. And 3 bet if raised. You'll get called/raised by all sorts of crazy hands here since there are no face cards and most people just can't believe you could have the overpair you're representing.

Amerretto
04-22-2005, 12:11 PM
*grunching*

I would be betting this all the way, especially on the turn, and if he wants to call the bet, then bet on the river as well.....

Then I would kick the cat when he turns over JJ.

MrBlueNose
04-22-2005, 12:13 PM
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This is like, the easiest value bet in the world. And 3 bet if raised. You'll get called/raised by all sorts of crazy hands here since there are no face cards and most people just can't believe you could have the overpair you're representing.

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Exactly. I value bet this one in my sleep.

deception5
04-22-2005, 12:19 PM
You've been betting the whole way - they have no reason to think you'd be afraid of the third 3. If you bet you can still get called by a 4, 8, any other pocket pair, and probably Ace high. If you check you could be bluffed by the same hands but not all are going to call your check/raise. And I think this will be checked through far too often for it to be profitable.

Without a very specific read on this player I bet for value here.

car ramrod
04-22-2005, 12:26 PM
I would bet this all day every day.
You have no read, so don't expect him to bet the river.

numeri
04-22-2005, 12:30 PM
[blind post]

Wow - easy easy bet on the river. What do you lose to? Any pocket pair lower than yours (except for 88 and 44) now has a full house and will call. MP2 has shown no aggression so far, so trying to 'induce a bluff' is really bad. Just trying to put MP2 on a hand is impossible - even a weak A might call here thinking you're bluffing.

Easiest bet ever.

xenthebrain
04-22-2005, 01:00 PM
easy value bet, no brainer

MechanoMan
04-22-2005, 01:37 PM
&lt;GRUNCHING&gt;

I'm betting this river for value.

&lt;/GRUNCHING&gt;

TripleH68
04-22-2005, 02:14 PM
Easy bet. Even if MP2 folds, you gain.

MrWookie47
04-22-2005, 02:54 PM
That is definitely a case where you didn't value bet the river, and God killed a kitten.

KaiShin
04-22-2005, 03:31 PM
And there goes another kitten.

Bet the river!