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thesharpie
04-22-2005, 08:16 AM
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Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif. UTG+2 posts a blind of $0.5.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (7 SB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero ???

@bsolute_luck
04-22-2005, 08:26 AM
bet. i think he's betting not to give you a free card if you were betting the flush draw.

McGahee
04-22-2005, 09:42 AM
Raise. People love to play JT but you can't give the SB credit for it yet. You also want UTG+2 to fold his overcards.

jrz1972
04-22-2005, 09:45 AM
Raise. I would really like for UTG+2 to fold if possible.

string4
04-22-2005, 09:52 AM
*blind response*

Hmm..6.5 BB plus one bet....

almost wanna put the guy on pocket 4s...when I call a flop raise like that with a good hand i'm waiting to bet the turn usually...Guy could also be on flush draw, but would he bet into another probable raise on just a drawing hand? such a small pot...no raise will likely make him drop the hand...If i call to SD will cost another 2 bets to win 10...

Probably wrong, but I think this is a fold situation.

McGahee
04-22-2005, 10:03 AM
Given the stop &amp; go SB definitely does not have 4,4. If he did he'd either 3-bet the flop and lead the turn or call the flop and C/R the turn.

zuluking
04-22-2005, 10:07 AM
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Probably wrong, but I think this is a fold situation.

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VERY wrong.

imported_Reaction
04-22-2005, 10:08 AM
Grunched:

Raise. Protect.

Marquis
04-22-2005, 10:37 AM
Very often a stop-n-go means you're whipped but I don't see it here. I would think that if this guy had a big made hand he'd be checkraising. It is likely that he is trying to win the pot right here while on a draw or has QJ, KJ or AJ. I'd raise.

I'd also take the free showdown.

k000k
04-22-2005, 11:19 AM
In a stop-and-go situation, I'll only back off it looks like a draw hit. In your case, I'd call if a club or another broadway card hit, but since it didn't, I raise it again. You may buy the button, protect your hand from LP, who might hit a 2pair or something on the riv. If SB was stronger than you he shoulda 3bet you on the flop. If you get 3bet on the turn, call down. If he calls and stop-n-go bets the river again, I'd just call it.

HajiShirazu
04-22-2005, 11:52 AM
Hi,
Raise every time and it's not close. Not raising in this situation is a fairly common leak IMO.

crownjules
04-22-2005, 12:00 PM
With two of a suit on the flop, SB may just think you were raising the flush draw (which obviously a good player would not be doing) and since it didn't come through on the turn, he figures his Jx is still good.

Raising here will hopefully get you HU. If SB 3-bets, you can start to fear the two-pair/set.