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StacysMom
04-21-2005, 03:22 PM
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
CO is LA-A, SB is sLP-P
Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls.

Flop: (7 SB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero ?
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Reqtech
04-21-2005, 03:26 PM
I call. This action doesn't make me feel that one pair is a good enough hand to win the pot, but you have the odds to call looking for a /images/graemlins/spade.gif

car ramrod
04-21-2005, 03:30 PM
your AA's might now be best, but you now have the nut flush draw, call.

moose47
04-21-2005, 03:32 PM
I'd call this. The action makes it pretty clear you are behind but getting 6.25:1 with a potential 9 outs to the nuts is good enough for me. I say potential because CO may already have the flush which takes away two outs but he could also have made the straight. Either way I definitely want to see this river.

Oops...My mistake, you actually have one out to the nuts but I stand by the rest of my post. Back to counting outs for me....

car ramrod
04-21-2005, 03:32 PM
might not, that should be.

xenthebrain
04-21-2005, 03:32 PM
It looks like CO caught his draw with the jack, but since you picked up the nut flush redraw, I would stay in no matter what till the river.

Roybert
04-21-2005, 03:35 PM
I'd raise with the Royal draw. You have 8 outs to the nutss, four to the probable nuts (all K's other than K of spades and the 7 of spades), the other two aces are worth probably between 0.5 and 1 and I think you'll win some of the time with your aces if a rag falls on the river. I think you'll win this more than 1/3 of the time. If SB is LP-P, he'll probably stick around for 2 more, right?

StacysMom
04-21-2005, 03:38 PM
consensus is to cold call 2-cold? Any thoughts on 3 betting?

homebrewer
04-21-2005, 03:39 PM
Call. You *could* be 3rd best here but you've got 9 outs to the nut flush. It could get ugly and be 2 back to you if SB 3 bets and CO caps. But, you're getting the right price. Don't fold this!

waynethetrain
04-21-2005, 03:40 PM
I have a question.

What does everyone think the SB has given that he 3-bet the flop after calling the raise pre-flop?

jba
04-21-2005, 03:41 PM
definitely can't fold here, so the question is call or raise, right?

how many outs do we have?

lets say 8.5 spades for nut flush (7s might be dirty here)
3 kings for nut straight
~0 aces.

around 11-12 outs. I'd say you win this hand around 25% of the time. You have an equity deficit, so just call.

homebrewer
04-21-2005, 03:45 PM
Good question.

There's a possibility that it will be 2 back to you anyway. And, if you 3 bet, you might slowdown the action on the river.

Still, I think this is a tough one. If another spade comes on the river, it might slowdown the action anyway. In that case, the three bet insures that you got some extra bets on the turn.

bozlax
04-21-2005, 03:46 PM
1 out to the absolute nuts, 9 outs to the nut flush, and I'm not stopping just because the 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif or 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif falls.

jba
04-21-2005, 03:48 PM
two pair or a set is my thought. depends on how passive he is.

he's loose and called from a blind, he could have any two cards without a better read.

waynethetrain
04-21-2005, 04:33 PM
The reason I ask is that the focus has been on the river play and I'm not so sure I would have capped the flop.

Mister Z
04-21-2005, 05:48 PM
Call. Do the macarena when the K /images/graemlins/spade.gif hits!

Mister Z
04-21-2005, 05:51 PM
[ QUOTE ]
consensus is to cold call 2-cold? Any thoughts on 3 betting?

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Why? You're most likely behind... you'll probably get capped. Do you want to knock someone out who is going to pay you on the river when your /images/graemlins/spade.gif hits?

KingOtter
04-21-2005, 06:05 PM
You've got odds to call it and call the cap, too, so I'd call it with the flush draw.

KO