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HoldingFolding

04-21-2005, 01:02 AM

No great reads, but unusually for a $10 MTT qualifier the betting has been fairly conservative. Any pointers on the preflop or postflop call? The pre flop mini-riase & postflop check raise smelt of AA....

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t1060)
UTG (t985)
UTG+1 (t1040)
UTG+2 (t1460)
MP1 (t1015)
MP2 (t1535)
MP3 (t850)
CO (t975)
Hero (t970)
SB (t110)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t20, MP1 raises to t40, MP2 calls t40, MP3 calls t40, 1 fold, Hero calls t40, SB raises to t110 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t70, MP2 calls t70, MP3 calls t70, Hero calls t70.

Flop: (t590) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players, 1 all-in)
MP1 checks, MP2 bets t200, MP3 folds, Hero calls t200, MP1 raises to t400, MP2 calls t200, Hero ????

CardSharpCook

04-21-2005, 01:09 AM

There was a time when I would at least min-raise any hand I wanted to play - just to knock out the blinds. I don't start sniffing AA when I see that this early. I know what I do in this situation - I go all-in. I put one guy on the flush draw, the other on AT and I go all-in. However, when QQ-AA flip up (or A3s, I guess, but it always seems to be QQ-AA), I say something like "I'm such a fish" and I ashamedly leave the table knowing that I should have folded. Yes, this is a fold - the evidence is there, now you just have to have the discipline to do what is right.

CSC

Pepsquad

04-21-2005, 01:31 AM

"Betting has been conservative up to this point."

We have a bet, a check min-raise into 2 opponents AND an overcall. You know JJ isn't good. To me this isn't even close.

You should be thankful you were able to obtain so much information by 2 monsters pu**y-footing around with each other.

Pep.

schwza

04-21-2005, 12:38 PM

pre-flop is fine. i would push the flop. after the c/r, i would fold.

HoldingFolding

04-21-2005, 10:27 PM

I should, as you say, have gone all in (or folded) calling was a terrible decision - I think if I had taken the time to work through it and put each player on an appropriate range of hands I would have realised I had the pot odds/implied odds to go all in. I still have a lot to learn. The hand panned out as follows, once again aggression pays off:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t1060)
UTG (t985)
UTG+1 (t1040)
UTG+2 (t1460)
MP1 (t1015)
MP2 (t1535)
MP3 (t850)
CO (t975)
Hero (t970)
SB (t110)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t20, MP1 raises to t40, MP2 calls t40, MP3 calls t40, 1 fold, Hero calls t40, SB raises to t110 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls t70, MP2 calls t70, MP3 calls t70, Hero calls t70.

Flop: (t590) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players, 1 all-in)
MP1 checks, MP2 bets t200, MP3 folds, Hero calls t200, MP1 raises to t400, MP2 calls t200, Hero folds.

Turn: (t1590) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

River: (t1590) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: t1590

Results:
MP1 has Jc Ad (three of a kind, threes).
MP2 has 6d 6s (full house, threes full of sixes).
Outcome: MP2 wins t1590.