KK call down or fold?

[Helios]

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

[MrWookie47]

Call the river. You just counterfeited two pair if he had Q2 or Q6. How good is this guy? Reads are good.

[thesharpie]

Call down from the turn raise unless UTG+2 is a maniac.

[Isura]

You're most likely behind when he caps the turn. You're getting odds to draw out against some 2 pair hands. I only really fear 22 or 66. Unless villian is passive, he's not playing TT or QQ this way. River is a super easy call.

[Shillx]

I would expect to see QT here, but you gotta call that river after he caps the turn. When he caps the turn, you have to call any T/6/2 or K (raise) on the river imo.

Brad

[shadow29]

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Call down from the turn raise unless UTG+2 is a maniac.

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I think the turn 3-bet is fine.

[GoHoosiers]

Grizz-unching....

This loooks fine to me. I find very rarely the Villian goes bonkers on the turn like this with anything other than 2 pair or a set, but with an overpair you must check-call the river.


Rich

[Helios]

If the river came a blank would you call a river bet?

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[shadow29]

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If the turn came a blank would you call a river bet?

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I'm not sure we would get to the river if the turn was a blank.

[Helios]

God I am retarded I meant if the river was a blank.

[shadow29]

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God I am retarded I meant if the river was a blank.

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Depends on the player. Since no reads were provided, maybe not.

Ironically, the board pairing is quite good for you here.

[Buckmulligan]

If you call the turn here, I would call the river getting 14:1.

[detruncate]

I don't 3-bet the turn without a good read.

I bet/call the turn and call down UI unless I've seen enough to think that Villain's c/r is legit. We're HU, so there's no extra overlay to help compensate for the times we're behind. We also frequently get capped when Villain has us beat. We'd have to be ahead a significant majority of the time for the raise to be the correct default play.

Include reads in your post if you want quality replies.

[aK13]

Against an unknown you wouldn't 3bet this turn? He could easily be limping UTG with some garbage hand like QJ that you have completely wrecked, and raise this turn. Only until it's capped do you really fear you're behind.

[detruncate]

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Against an unknown you wouldn't 3bet this turn? He could easily be limping UTG with some garbage hand like QJ that you have completely wrecked, and raise this turn. Only until it's capped do you really fear you're behind.

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In a more aggressive game or vs a known aggressive opponent I'd often 3-bet. But as a default play in a .5/1 game? Nope.