Thoughts on UB?

[prepotency]

I currently SNG on Party and am thinking of moving to Ultimate Bet - how does everyone like it (the structure, etc.)?

Also, has anyone found rakeback >25%?

[cha59]

UB is good.
Good software, the games move very smooth and quickly.
The players are generally better than at Party, much tighter.
The blind structure is very favorable for a good tight player: some of the deepest starting stacks and the slowest rising blinds I have seen anywhere.
Their bonus payouts are way easier to earn than on Full Tilt, but I think the players are a little tougher at UB.

[prepotency]

Okay, thanks - how fast exactly do blinds rise?

also - does anyone know of a rakeback > 25% ?

[TruFloridaGator]

No rakeback through SNGs, only ring games.

[prepotency]

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No rakeback through SNGs, only ring games.

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really? sux

[Misfire]

Individual hands go MUCH quicker than Party or Stars, a little slower than Prima. UB's table interface is my favorite because it centers you on the screen. Players are better than Party or Prima, but I've still done pretty well (granted I'm still playing the cheap n00b games). I've noticed the player talent difference more in ring games than in SNGs.

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how fast exactly do blinds rise?

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Every 10 mins in normal SNGs, every 4 mins in "turbo" SNGs. (Don't click those by accident!)

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also - does anyone know of a rakeback > 25% ?

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Dunno, I was too dumb to get a rakeback or even a bonus. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[cha59]

Sit N Go Structures
All Sit and Gos have the following structures.
Under $100 Buy-in Games $100 Buy-in and Above Games
Starting Chips: $1500 Starting Chips: $2500
Escalation Time: 10 mins * Escalation Time: 12 mins *
* Turbo Sit-n-Gos have a 5 min escalation time for any buy-in.

Pot Limit and No Limit
(Under $100 Buy-in)
Level Small Blind Big Blind
1 10 20
2 15 30
3 20 40
4 30 60
5 50 100
6 75 150
7 100 200
8 150 300
9 200 400
10 300 600
11 400 800
12 600 1,200
13 800 1,600
14 1,000 2,000
15 1,500 3,000
16 2,000 4,000
17 3,000 6,000
18 4,000 8,000
19 6,000 12,000
20 8,000 16,000
21 10,000 20,000
22 15,000 30,000
23 20,000 40,000
24 30,000 60,000
25 40,000 80,000
26 60,000 120,000
27 80,000 160,000
28 100,000 200,000
29 150,000 300,000
Pot Limit and No Limit
($100 Buy-in and Above)
Level Small Blind Big Blind
1 15 30
2 20 40
3 30 60
4 50 100
5 75 150
6 100 200
7 150 300
8 200 400
9 300 600
10 400 800
11 600 1,200
12 800 1,600
13 1,000 2,000
14 1,500 3,000
15 2,000 4,000
16 3,000 6,000
17 4,000 8,000
18 6,000 12,000
19 8,000 16,000
20 10,000 20,000
21 15,000 30,000
22 20,000 40,000
23 30,000 60,000
24 40,000 80,000
25 60,000 120,000
26 80,000 160,000
27 100,000 200,000
28 150,000 300,000

Hope this makes sense....

[tjh]

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UB is good.
Good software, the games move very smooth and quickly.
The players are generally better than at Party, much tighter.
The blind structure is very favorable for a good tight player: some of the deepest starting stacks and the slowest rising blinds I have seen anywhere.
Their bonus payouts are way easier to earn than on Full Tilt, but I think the players are a little tougher at UB.

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I love UB. My game works well there. I have yet to adjust to the mayhem at party. I play the $11 SNG's. I may post my strategy. It is pretty tight for 50 or 60 hands or so. Harder sight to come up with a good written strategy for because after 30 hands or so with deep stacks some sort of opportunity is bound to crop up and general advice to a noob to "sieze opportunities" is not very clear. The structure allows for you to get real reads on folks, you can wait for your chance to strike. If you miss you probably have enough chips to make a comeback. I do not multitable, I would rather move up levels than multitable. So I am working on my game. So multitablers take my advice with a grain of salt.

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tjh

[TruFloridaGator]

Indeed, Absolute & FT are the only ones with rakebacks with the deep stacks that I have found, Absolute's interface is horrific & I already have a FT account.

Is it possible to get around the fact that you can't get a rakeback with a current account by making a new one? I would have to use the same addresses, etc though, so it's probably not possible.

[JP Rocks]

I dont know what other people think of the turbo structure, but I am a big fan of it. Ive found that the fast rising blinds will increase the poor play because people panic and call with crap. Also, you dont get to heads up with the blinds at 100-200 and have to sweat it out for another 30 mins if the other guy knows what he is doing...

[tjh]

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I dont know what other people think of the turbo structure, but I am a big fan of it. Ive found that the fast rising blinds will increase the poor play because people panic and call with crap. Also, you dont get to heads up with the blinds at 100-200 and have to sweat it out for another 30 mins if the other guy knows what he is doing...

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Correct statement about the 30 minutes of heads-up. I still find heads up a learning experience so I enjoy this. Once it becomes more familiar I may find it a chore. Intend to try about 25 turbos and get a rough feel for if they are as profitable as the regulars.

Some folks report lower variance on UB SNG. I assume that is because of the long playing time, depp stacks etc.

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tjh

[EasilyFound]

I'm looking at an UB sng screen right now. I don't see that it tells you the size of each player's bet. Is there an option that does that? One thing I like at Party, or at least that I'm used to, is the software graphics tells you exactly what is in the pot and the amount of each bet. I don't see that to be true for UB (or PokerStars) for that matter. There is an option, I see, for how much is in the pot, but not for how much each person is betting. Is that information supposed to be in the chat box or somewhere else? I can't seem to find it.

Thanks.

[Pepsquad]

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I'm looking at an UB sng screen right now. I don't see that it tells you the size of each player's bet. Is there an option that does that? One thing I like at Party, or at least that I'm used to, is the software graphics tells you exactly what is in the pot and the amount of each bet. I don't see that to be true for UB (or PokerStars) for that matter. There is an option, I see, for how much is in the pot, but not for how much each person is betting. Is that information supposed to be in the chat box or somewhere else? I can't seem to find it.

Thanks.

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On Full View, there isn't a number beside the chips indicating bet size, but you don't need it because the little yellow button pops up indicating how much you will be wagering if you choose to call. By using min-view however, it shows the # size of the opponents bet.

[EasilyFound]

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On Full View, there isn't a number beside the chips indicating bet size, but you don't need it because the little yellow button pops up indicating how much you will be wagering if you choose to call. By using min-view however, it shows the # size of the opponents bet.

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It just occurred to me that the screen view might be different---and, apparently, will be based on your post---if I create an account. I was just "observing." So I guess I don't see what it will actually be like if I create an account and play.

[juris]

Move your cursor to the pot or a player's bet and it will tell you the amount.

[Misfire]

It doesn't show bet values, I don't think, unless you mouse over the chips. After a while though you'll start to recognize the chip combinations and it won't even be necessary. The size required to call shows up on the controls at the bottom of the screen anyway. That at least tells you the size of the highest bet minus what you've already put in. The option to show the pot size only shows the pot as of the end of the last round of betting, which seems kinda silly to me (Prima, on the other hand, shows the pot including current bets on the table, which is much more useful for figuring your pot odds). The "bet pot" button shows the actual amount you can put in as if you were playing pot-limit (last round pot + current bets + your call + 100% raise). That button makes the game go soooo much quicker because you don't have to waste time fiddling with the bet slider when you want to bet pot.

[prepotency]

I know on PokerStars it's an option you can turn on to see the bet amounts and the pot amount is at the very top center.

[burningyen]

Here are my thoughts:

thought #1 (and I was mistaken, the non-turbo levels are 10 minutes) (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=singletable&Number=1896629 &Forum=f22&Words=UB&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=189 1625&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=12488&daterang e=1&newerval=&newertype=w&olderval=&oldertype=&bod yprev=#Post1896629)

thought #2 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=singletable&Number=2016017 &Forum=f22&Words=UB&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=201 6017&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=12488&daterang e=1&newerval=&newertype=w&olderval=&oldertype=&bod yprev=#Post2016017)