99 horror

[Hojglad]

I'm pretty sure that this is a direct application of Ed Miller's advice never to fold for one more bet in a big pot.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (12 SB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

The most beautiful 9 I've ever seen.... followed by the scariest 2 i've ever seen.

River: (12.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, UTG folds, Hero .....

Do I have to pay off this raise? The guy who made it is a total and complete donk. He calls with any two preflop regardless of who raises or where the raise comes from. I got the grossest feeling here. Do you call for one more bet?

[toss]

I wouldn't fold even if villain came over to my house and showed me his straight.

[Ric]

Yeah, I'd call. Pot's too big to fold.

[TripleH68]

At 15 to 1 with your read, yes.

[KeysrSoze]

You gotta take a bite out of that big turd sandwich and call.

[davelin]

Easiest call. You'll see a lot of random two pairs or even sets here.

[bozlax]

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You gotta take a bite out of that big turd sandwich and call.

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Salt helps...

[PokerProdigy]

I might not bet the flop because I am almost positive someone has an ace. But yeah, I still wouldn't fold the river in this size pot for one more bet with trips, even with a scary board.

[Ptolemy]

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I wouldn't fold even if villain came over to my house and showed me his straight.

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I was just going to say yes, but I like this line more.

[DeathDonkey]

3 bet and fold to a cap /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

-DeathDonkey

[fluxrad]

Call the raise. You win this WAY too often not to call it. Consider he might be trying to kill-off overcalls with A-rag.

[imported_leader]

I'd call but I'd think about 3-betting against some people. Folding here would be really bad.

[Hojglad]

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3 bet and fold to a cap /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

-DeathDonkey

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As it turns out, the guy turned over A5. I actually think he played this hand pretty well. He scared the bejesus out of me. For those who advocate 3 betting, why? Do you think that anyone without a straight is going to call the third bet? It seems like any raise you make on the river should always be for value. If he caps or calls the 3 bet (doubtful) I don't expect to win. Why not show it down for one more?

[TheWorstPlayer]

It would be extremely unlikely for you to have a 3 as the preflop raiser. It is much more likely that you are getting out of line with AK. I would definitely expect him to call a 3 bet on the river with aces up or with a lower set. He might even cap a lower set.

[AlmightyJay]

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I wouldn't fold even if villain came over to my house and showed me his straight.

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I feel like that's a -EV play. Somehow. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[DeathDonkey]

I think the results of this hand are pretty good evidence that he could hold a hand you beat and call a 3 bet.

-DeathDonkey

[Ed Miller]

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Do I have to pay off this raise? The guy who made it is a total and complete donk. He calls with any two preflop regardless of who raises or where the raise comes from. I got the grossest feeling here. Do you call for one more bet?

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Yes, you pay off. The river raise could be two pair or a smaller set or a possible bluff.

[toss]

You're lucky tehmatt. That guy that wrote that book that we read responded to your thread!