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PancakeBoy
04-18-2005, 07:43 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t800)
SB (t800)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t800)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to t30</font>, MP1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, UTG ALL IN , UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, Button folds, Hero ???

What do i do here!? I can only hope he has JJ or TT; AK is a flip (which i want to avoid this early), AA KK have me crushed. What to do?

microbet
04-18-2005, 07:45 PM
KK is all good. JJ is all bad. QQ is the question. The more I face this the more I am ready to go to war early with QQ.

Matt Walker
04-18-2005, 07:47 PM
I take it from the 800 chip stacks this is a 5 to 30 buy in. I'd prob call. This bet definatly doesn't seem like it wants a call, so I'd say that JJ TT and AK are the most likely hands you would encounter played this way at a low buy in. That being said I wouldn't be suprised if he flipped over aces or kings. Call and if you lose there's always another one of these things waiting.

The Yugoslavian
04-18-2005, 07:53 PM
If you're going to raise QQ that big to start with on level 1 you gotta call...now, if you're wondering if it's better to play QQ differently so you can get away from it, the answer to that question likely depends on how good a STT player you are (the worse you are the more you should call)...I don't pretend to know where the cutoff is though.

Yugoslav

curtains
04-18-2005, 07:57 PM
UTG's most likely holding is ATo. (I say this because I had the exact same hand today, although a few less limpers)

BradleyT
04-18-2005, 08:34 PM
I've seen this with A7s, KT, KJ, any pair so often at these levels that it's an easy call.

spentrent
04-18-2005, 08:47 PM
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AK is a flip (which i want to avoid this early), AA KK have me crushed. What to do?

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Since you've already jammed the pot with that raise, you need to call here. That raise dares AK to put you on a coin flip to win the hand but it gives you great pot odds to make the call.

adanthar
04-18-2005, 08:56 PM
Call, and I also call JJ here because this guy sucks.

curtains
04-18-2005, 09:01 PM
microbot and adanthar basically have the same photo.

Nottom
04-18-2005, 09:05 PM
There was a post a few days ago about passing up coin flips with money in the pot. If you know he has AK, then you should call with QQ with 150 already invested in the hand.

ICM says you need to win here 43% of the time, against {JJ-AA, AK} you will win 47% of the time. So I'm starting to lean towards calling against a complete unknown.

AnyTwoCanLose
04-18-2005, 09:11 PM
There's another SNG in 2 minutes.

microbet
04-18-2005, 09:18 PM
Simular as they say in Indiana.

I'm a copycat.

PancakeBoy
04-18-2005, 10:01 PM
Result:

I FOLDED LIKE A GIRL. oops; I still finished 3rd tho =/.