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JasonP530
04-18-2005, 06:59 PM
Think I finally found the spot to fold a good hand. Let me know.

Table Table 11191 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 4: chevysc (6028)
Seat 7: hero (1028)
Seat 8: TAR4225 (2388)
Seat 9: chomchen (556)
hero posts small blind (100)
TAR4225 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Ah, Qc ]
chomchen folds.
chevysc raises (400) to 400
hero??

syphlix
04-18-2005, 07:18 PM
i push on this mini... got any reads of the biggie?

Matt Walker
04-18-2005, 07:25 PM
With that guys stack he's likely going to be raising any two here as he should be since the short stack aleady folded. For this reason I think you can get away with a stop and go. I know there is a lot to be said for avoiding coinflips on the bubble but are you very likely to be much better than a coinflip. Plus you have 5 big blinds and if the other short stack doubles up you are in serious touble. Folding here seems like it would be playing to sneak into the money.

Also this is just the generic play, its majorly read dependent. If this big stack is a loose passive fish who hasn't raised yet and doesn't know its a great stealing spot, I'll fold without thinking twice.

valenzuela
04-18-2005, 07:27 PM
push, u have a shorty right near u.

Nottom
04-18-2005, 09:12 PM
[ QUOTE ]
push, u have a shorty right near u.

[/ QUOTE ]

Isn't the shorty the reason not to push?

valenzuela
04-18-2005, 09:15 PM
yes, i thought the difference was only like 200 chips.

Nottom
04-18-2005, 09:16 PM
If You think the Bigstack will call, which I would expect him to then this is a fold even if he is pushing any two.

syphlix
04-18-2005, 09:26 PM
aren't we supposed to me more agressive on the bubble trying to get more chips for when we're in the money?...

folding this seems like an attempt to just fold your way in... even though we've got a pretty killer hand and shorty still has enough so it doesn't seem like he's a lock to blind out... also if we fold this we mite sneak into the money but are almost assured a 3rd place finish?

valenzuela
04-18-2005, 09:27 PM
the big stack is sooooooooooooo scared.

Nottom
04-18-2005, 09:46 PM
[ QUOTE ]
aren't we supposed to me more agressive on the bubble trying to get more chips for when we're in the money?...

[/ QUOTE ]

We are supposed to be getting more aggressive when pushing, I basically see this as a call since you are getting called by the big stack most of the time.

If Hero thinks that the big stack will lay some hands down, than maybe you can push but in reality you are at the mercy of the big stack in this spot.