Q/Q Should I stop firing?

[Delzek15]

I have two people raising/reraising me here... Do I keep capping once the turn comes out?


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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Flop: (11 SB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (20.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 23.50 BB

[admiralfluff]

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Do I keep capping once the turn comes out?


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yes

nice hand (from the turn)

edit: I would fold the flop without reads.

[That guy]

UTG+1 has 77
MP3 has KQ

you want to 5-bet it... but will have to settle for the cap

[RollingRockMike]

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I have two people raising/reraising me here... Do I keep capping once the turn comes out?


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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Flop: (11 SB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (20.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 23.50 BB

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I'm probably folding this flop as well. Post turn I'm putting in as many bets as possible.

Mike

[HajiShirazu]

I think he needs to call here closing the action getting 17-1 as his outs are clean.
Here was the ideal case, he ended up getting 47-1 on his call. Obvioiusly it doesn't always work out so well.

[Bizot]

no way i'm folding the flop for just 1 more pot odds are to good. Fold turn unimproved but with that card no way i am slowing down. can't put anyone on KK here given preflop stuff. Nice 1 outter /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[einbert]

The flop call is close. I prefer folding, especially with the coldcaller. He'll have top pair or a hand he's slowplaying a good percentage of the time, since there is no flush draw or straight draw.

Three-bet the turn the first time though, I can't see why you wouldn't.

[PokerBob]

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I have two people raising/reraising me here... Do I keep capping once the turn comes out?


Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Flop: (11 SB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (20.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 23.50 BB

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You should have folded the flop. Once the turn hits, you should be throwing chips in until they tell you to stop.

[Delzek15]

Thats what I thought too until he flipped over K/K and crushed my dreams. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[RollingRockMike]

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Here was the ideal case, he ended up getting 47-1 on his call. Obvioiusly it doesn't always work out so well.

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You included his own subsequent bets in that calculation. As long as you're so result orientated, you should look at his actual result.

Mike

[x2ski]

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Thats what I thought too until he flipped over K/K and crushed my dreams. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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UTG+1 right? Are friggin' kidding me? Ignoring his preflop play, who wouldn't raise this river with KK? You'd definitely be getting at least one more bet out of the opponent who led out. Who the F is going for overcalls here? WTF?

Tough outcome.

[admiralfluff]

he probably put hero on quad 7s.

[rewt75]

I hope you thanked him for the river call.

Fold to the flop raise!