ATs hand SB Terrible Cold Call?

[Bizot]

I'll put real stats on here:
MP1 44/6/.80 Just lost a big pot on the river also
MP3 81/12/.4 Total donk seen him 3 bet people with anything multiple times.

Preflop call is pretty bad i think but from whoelse was in the pot i couldtn't help myself.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (16.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero ???

Final Pot: 18.50 BB

[rt1]

fold preflop

when you call the turn you are calling the river.

[Harv72b]

Your position sucks throughout the hand, and if you're right about both opponents (MP1 tilting, MP3 being a maniac), you're likely to have to pay a ton of bets to see the river even if you do catch a favorable flop.

So I fold preflop. The rest of the hand plays differently after that. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Assuming I am somehow in this on the flop, I either raise or fold to MP3's flop bet (with a heavy tendency towards folding). I fold to MP1's turn raise after I catch my ace. And I fold to MP1's river bet.

Now that I've said all that, congrats on winning 18.5 BBs. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

EDIT: woops, guess you folded the winner on the river.

[Bizot]

no i'm a moron and folded the river "even though i think it was the right move here" I was beating myself up over the preflop/flop/turn play I was like time for a good play!

I had a big talk with 2 good 2+2'ers this weekend about AT and how shitty it really is... /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[HajiShirazu]

The reason this is bad is because the original raiser is a 6% guy. That means he pretty much only raises hands that have you dominated.
Of course sample size always comes into play with those numbers, but still, AJs would probably be bad here also so ATs has to be a fold.

[Bizot]

15 BB = auto call on the river basically everyone agrees here?

The funny thing is the 6% guy raised A4o and the toher guy 3 bet A4o... i was like "wow" on the river when i saw that chop.